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Take out Selvidge and replace with Lalane. I'd still be pissed about the lack of Jones. I'm not convinced NYY wont move him, esp if they strike out on Montgomery and Snell.

Now that there's an agreement I wonder what the holdup is between Montgomery and TEX (besides Boras)?

https://theathletic.com/5258158/2024/02/09/mlb-farm-system-rankings-2024/ Didn't expect us to make Top 10.

I am glad Getz is insisting on him as the main piece. If he isn't included, then there's nothing to discuss with NYY.

That's the whole point tho Jimmy.....the Burnes offer is garbage FOR US and Harold noted the offer they made us was pretty similar Even adding in some other lower piece doesn't meaningfully change it. If BAL thinks Hall can be a SP they wouldn't have included him and if they can't make him a SP then a vastly inferior development program also cannot make him a SP either. And relatively few people here are excited about Ortiz, so what are we getting then? No one wants him as a primary piece (secondary is fine) and no one wants a reliever as a primary piece either. And a Comp balance pick also is not an appropriate primary piece. If they had made an offer based on the 3 part structure we've talked about over and over again that would have fine but if not then forget it. I would have taken Kjerstad, Ortiz and Povich (and a lotto). It doesn't seem that was offered.

The Burnes package was hot garbage. I dont care if he gets hurt. No means no. And even you agreed with us that a "fair" package would include one of the LH OFers instead of the draft pick.

65 wins would actually be a pleasant surprise.

If DiPoto puts a fair offer on the table like Miller/Woo, Clase and Montes (49m SV), then I would expect Getz to take it and part with Cease (42m SV). If opposing GMs are still dicking around with garbage offers like what Elias reportedly offered (around 36m roughly), then Getz will hold him.

No....not necessarily. Why would that be the case? Nightengale said I think even before the BAL-MIL trade that SEA was the team most likely to deal. And NYY is still out there as a possibility particularly if their pitching looks shaky in ST. There are still several other clubs in need as well and are likely to be in need after Montgomery and Snell sign. Its certainly possible it could go to the deadline but I doubt it with that much demand out there. I wouldn't be shocked if it went into ST tho because Boras is holding out for his FAs

Crochet for Vivas. BTV has their SVs as very similar. Bring me Jorbit Vivas now! He checks alot of boxes for us.....LH 2B with above avg hit tool, good BB% and can stick at the position. Good platoon option for 2B.

BTV has his SV at around 10m only...may make sense to wait and see if he has a good first half in 2024.

Speaking of NYY.... We need to trade with NYY (regardless of Cease) and acquire Vivas to be strongside of the 2B platoon. He had a very strong year last year in AA as a 22 year old and got his feet wet in AAA. Walked more than he struck out. It shouldn't cost a ton and would be valuable to us. LH...projected 55 hit and gets OBP plus projected 50 glove at 2B. If Getz is trying to find bargains that fill needs cheaply, this is one. Maybe we can send them a reliever or two.

The high BABIP is concerning, but if you look at his minor league stats from 2019-2023 on fangraphs he has put up a high and seemingly unsustainable BABIP every single year. I agree that theoretically it should normalize but 4 years in a row suggests that maybe (hopefully) he's one of those guys who has an uncanny ability to find holes. /trying to be find a way to be positive

Yeah what's fair is fair....to get 2 Top 100s for 3 months of Giolito, Lynn and Kelly was a masterstroke by Hahn. That was huge. If Nastrini can stick in the rotation as like a 3 that would be massive.

Hopefully Bannister can fix him and then we can move him at the deadline for a good return. They have alot of SP with issues and if he can fix even a few of them, we will reap a huge prospect benefit in trades. Bannister is prolly the most important person in this rebuild/retool.

Maybe they stumbled across some secret sabermetric research that shows character strongly correlates with runs scored. That's all I got.

How much service time does he have left?

Since the Royals spent money and we seem to love all things Royals maybe.... ....never mind.

He has a big arm....needs to put in the work to be a good actual RF. I still believe in him (I can't just let go of LH 50 hit/60 power/plus arm) and hopefully being in AAA for awhile and seeing lesser talents playing ahead of him in Chicago will merit a course correction.

I thought I also saw somewhere that Elias was OK with one of those 3 guys but not 2. IMO, if he was OK with giving us Kjerstad, Ortiz and Hall I would definitely do that but I highly doubt he would offer us that.

I think Harold said it was basically the same as Burnes except maybe they added one more piece. I'm assuming that extra piece wasn't a Top 5 guy (perhaps Norby ?). Yeah that's an easy NO from Getz. If Getz wanted Westburg plus one of Cowser/Kjerstad and Elias wasn't even offering one of those guys, then we were never even remotely close to a deal. Props to Elias for the trade he pulled off tho, he did good work for his team.

The fangraphs writeup on him was promising as to the work he put in during the fall.

At the plate at least, I expect a solid year from Beni now that his wrist is fully healed. Like 280/360 and 15 HRs. IMO if we throw in some money it could get us something at the deadline

Other rankings of note: Basallo 20 Dominguez 21 Anthony 22 Mayo 27 Emerson 37 Teel 54 "Nicky" Ortiz 58 Lowder 60 Kjerstad 62 Pereira 63 Bradfield 64 Hence 73 Rushing 86 Stone 95 Gilbert 100 Cowser NR S. Jones NR Hampton NR Norby NR

Rankings and small summary/blurb Montgomery 42 -As to SS, consensus in industry turned for the better and its now 50/50 that he can stick at SS. Felt injury limited him last year and rust/exhaustion also hurt him in AFL. Given a chance to "reset" and become the prior high contact and all fields hitter we saw previously, should continue March to Chicago and be everyday SS or 3B, with 4-5 WAR upside due to hit tool/position. Quero 67- Average arm, but 50-55 defense, OBP north of .350 and a little pop, which is "a starter on majority of teams". Everyday catcher. Ramos 69-Solid average defender at 3B with 55 arm and could move to 2B if needed. Could hit for avg, 10% walk and 20-25 HR, with possibility of 30 HRs and some All Star teams. Nastrini 76-Odds remaining starter over 50% Schultz 79- No. 1 starter upside or top end reliever potential depending on health and coordination For more see https://theathletic.com/5245693/2024/02/05/top-100-mlb-prospects-2024-keith-law/