Look at Ray Ray Run

Crochet is arguably the best pitcher in baseball. The prize prospect they got was in the 40's. They could have done much better had Garrett even shown just what he has through 55 games this year.

You'll be able to take Houser off that list by the middle of June. Smith was really nice. Fedde not nearly as unknown, but a nice sign - looks more like a little lightening in a bottle given his performance since, but still they got something for it so a win none the less. The Sox trading Crochet when they did was a big fail, imo, and I've been pretty clear about that. His value was only going to grow, despite him losing time of control. I'd have kept him, period, but if you were going to trade him you should have done it later as he continues to establish himself as a true league-wide #1.

I think the Bullpen is one of the first areas you can truly see advancements in PD, and it's one reason I'm really down on Getz. It's the easiest place on the field to find undervalued talent. It's the easiest position to convert into success by making singular changes/tweaks and/or converting SP to RP's to maximize. If the Sox can't find any young bullpen arms, why would anyone think they're going to find talent at much more competitive and invested positions?

Some clear measurable changes made prior to that hot stretch. He has a 118 wRC+, and he's on a 3+ WAR pace despite the tough start. The Sox need 3-4 win players desperately, and Vargas is trending in that direction.

Just a little mid-year update. Crochet is the 4th best pitcher in MLB so far, and it's between Skubal, him and Skenes for most valuable arm in baseball. Meidroth has been worth 1.1 fWAR in 33 games with a 111 wRC+. That's a really nice pace and Meidroth might be a 3-4 win consistent performer. He will likely need to find a little more contact authority or defenses will adjust and it will hamper his production, but he's shown enough for me to believe that could happen. Teel has a 127 wRC+ in AAA. Given the Sox depth at catcher, I always found this to be an odd centerpiece. All in all though, Teel has maintained his status and projection but don't believe he's taken any steps up in status. Montgomery has a 143 wRC+ in A+. I think it's clear that Montgomery will be more highly rated come mid-season update than he was pre-season. How he performs at AA will be big for his projection/expectation going forward. Gonzalez, like all other pitching prospects, can't throw strikes. If he doesn't improve his zone control, he will not be worth anything. All in all, I think the winner is still clearly the team getting the generational talent BUT Meidroth will really lift the floor of this trade if he continues on his path. We still need to see success from Teel AND Montgomery to make this a win given the uniqueness of Crochet's skills.

On pace for a 6.6 WAR gain as a position player unit over last year. Problem is that would only bring them to a .3 WAR total for the entire season. Additionally their pitching staff is on pace to lose about 2 WAR YoY. In general they still really really stink.

You "think" elko isn't a MLB hitter long term. We know Vaughn isn't

Think their ERA was 4.5 through may 21st last year.

We're celebrating 16 ab spurts of 250 baseball now... in aaa

Think schultz will be fine but Taylor and Smith have very serious risk at this point.

Finding 4 guys like that in the period is very impressive.

Lighting money on fire with houser. He stinks.

I'm still in the Davis Martin is not good camp, so I'd take any top 100 for him.

Spending a lot on a bunch of littles. Having two good years that end in poor postseason performance. Then completely diving because of a lack of depth and poor roster construction/spending.

It's funny how similar the orioles rebuild path has taken to the White Sox.

Vaughn was hitting BP homers.. that's what we've come to with him.

700+ ops miguel Vargas mania

Show me that elko bump you were talking about. Looked it up: 2 Sundays ago they had 19k+. Last Sunday with elko they had 16.8k.

Sox facilities have been fine. They've lacked some tech and a consistent structure and expectations throughout the org. I've said it before but you could have hired consultants for a couple months to tell you those things. I also am not buying the analytics push. They haven't exactly expanded that team or it's given power in the org. They also haven't hired anyone of prominence in the field.

How does losing intentionally work in the MLB. What edge do you gain for setting records of bad. There have been many rebuilds in sports history. None as bad as the White Sox, in baseball. Stop pretending what's happening is normal.

It's a bit concerning that Taylor, Schultz and Smith all can't throw strikes now. Davis Martin will have to buy a ticket to the next white sox playoff game.

Talent wise? The Sox had negative 6+ WAR as an offense last year. That was 10+ WAR worse than second place lol. Their pitching WAR is propped up by one player who isn't on this year's team.

Huh? Of course you need things to go wrong to be bad, but the Sox lived up to their badness statistically speaking.

Probably be a sell out now today.

Brother sounded pretty offended. They didn't sound like a both sides family to me!