Vulture

7.5 is a team option for ‘22. ‘21 salary is a little over 4m.

Actual payroll is at 103 million plus whatever Giolito and Lopez get which brings it to estimated 109-110. Maybe youre looking at luxury tax figure which includes prorated amounts for signing bonuses.

Cubs received a 27 year old starter with a ~3.30 era since 2019. Maybe I’m missing something but the Sox didn’t have any one comparable to go along with four high upside SS and OF, albeit young, prospects to match that. So they would have had to have dipped into the upper tier of prospects for multiple selections

League wide K/9 was 6.4 in 2004 compared to 9.1 in 2020.

Happy new year!

I’d rather get Sugano for that on a four year deal, and ride Lynn for one year then let him go. To me Lynn at one year cheap IS the good part of that deal. He won’t get in the way of any multi year deals. Use him in ‘21 when the Sox need him and move on.

I agree on the 109 estimate

Pretty sure he said you are insufferable rather than reality

That was since beginning of 2019.

Davies 133 era+ Darvish 128 era+ obviously Darvish is the better pitcher but Davies in 7 years younger and they got four viable prospects as a ell.

Cubs sold high on Darvish no doubt about it. 35 year old injury prone pitcher who happened to pitch his best twelve starts in ‘20. Davies numbers are actually somewhat comparable since start of ‘19. It was only a year ago Darvish led NL in home runs allowed.

This might help. I guess if your vision is blurred enough, iwin4prep could look like vulture

I never said he was a stud. I said he is clearly better than Lopez. I don’t know if you boys been drinking too much or what but if you look at the name at the top of the post you can tell who you’re talking to

Lol wut? you don’t even know who you’re responding to. You’d think a mod could follow a thread

Or to put it another way, Lopez allowed 66% more home runs and 45% more walks

How’s that interesting? Isn’t the last two years more relevant than three years ago or did you fail to notice Lopez sucking balls the last two years? 25 more walks and 18 more home runs over exact number of innings. Not even close.

I don’t consider fangraphs war valid considering they gave Lynn a 1.6 in a season in which he put up 123 ERA+ in 186 innings but 2.0 to Esteban Loiaza in a season he had 80 ERA+ in 152 innings, for example. Musgrove is clearly vastly superior to Lopez rather than “another Reynaldo Lopez.”

Since beginning of 2019, Musgrove and Lopez have both pitched 210 innings. Lopez allowed 80 walks and 44 home runs, musgrove 55 walks and 26 home runs. That’s a mighty wide divide Lopez would have to cross to get into Musgrove territory. If you’re looking at career war you’re ignoring Musgrove upward trend and Lopez’s downward spiral.

Depending on who you consider untouchable I don’t think that’s happening. Though in recent history, the Reds have been a very stupid organization so I could be wrong.

I guess than means after Hershiser threw 59 scoreless innings, the most likely outcome was he’d never allow a run again.

It’s far more logical looking at his actual performance over his last 32 starts than presuming a hypothetical performance over 21 nonexistent starts

The other thing we can do is look at his last 32 actual starts rather than 11 actual starts and 21 hypothetical starts. Based on the previous 21 starts its not in fact safe to say it would have been over 5 WAR

You can’t extrapolate 2020 to a full season though. No way he would have kept up that pace over 32 starts

This man is for the birds!

The curveball discrepancy is even worse with Lopez. From 25% to approaching zero