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There is a far better chance Jerry considers a significant change in doing by someone he admires and trusts than his lackeys. She wouldn’t risk moving here for a promotion without making sure she has a good chance to make it work, regardless of Jerry’s shelf life. She has a good situation now that she no longer has to deal with Jeter, and a team with a lot of young talent.

The Sox could have built a stadium immersed in the neighborhood but instead demanded all the surrounding areas nuked like Nagasaki, whereas the Cubs are generating a lot of revenue beyond the ballpark. Not a huge Ricketts fan, but they hire baseball people and get out if the way, don’t micromanage, and don’t leech off of Chicago taxpayers. Back to the topic at hand, I’ve listed the three teams I want to win in the postseason in another thread, but here they are: Marlins - Burger, Kim Angels - Lucas, Lopez, Ohtani & Trout Astros - Abreu & Alvarez Baltimore, Cincinnati and Tampa for their die hard fans. Contending teams I do not want to win the World Series = Arizona, Atlanta, Boston, Cubs, Dodgers, Minnesota, Philadelphia, San Francisco, Texas, Toronto, Yankees.

Like many here on SoxTalk, Jerry hates the Cubs more than he likes the Sox. The two significant changes in the organization came after Jerry’s reaction to the Cubs’ best two playoff runs. 2003 - Cubs come to within a few outs of a World Series. Jerry responds by firing his “winning manager” and picks Ozzie over Kenny’s choice Cito Gaston. 2016 - Cubs win the World Series. Jerry is done with mediocrity and fully embraces Hahn’s plan of several more years of excuses, tanking and bottom feeding. Beyond Aug 2020 - June 2021, this is where the Sox have been and remain today. If it takes a Cubs third run for a complete overhaul of the entire organization, I’m all for it.

Birmingham Manager Lorenzo Buddy was asked about Edgar Quero’s walk during his second game with his club during their 9-4 loss, the club’s 61st loss of the season. ”Our coaching staff is here to teach the White Sox way, the Ozzie Guillen way. We instruct every hitter to always swing aggressive and that it is far better to make an out than to take a walk.” "There will be a consequence he has to endure here within our family," the manager said. "It's a learning experience." "I'm certain that will not happen again with Edgar," Buddy said. "It's a manager's responsibility. It's a teaching moment. You want them to understand why there's a swing sign in that situation.”

I like Rabbits.

I agree with your post, with the exception of these two points. 2015 Royals 2014 Royals

If it helps finalize complete revamp of the Sox front office, so be it. Jerry is motivated more by hate, greed and pettiness than he is trying to make the Sox better. Like a substantial number of Sox fans, he hates the Cubs more than he likes the White Sox. So glad Tony hated him, wouldn't have gotten Kimbrel or Pollock otherwise.

of course.

The Sox have had seven managers during this period. Miguel Cairo managed 34 games with an 18-16 record. Tony La Russa was a loser in 2022, going 64-66 before stepping down for a health issue, and then resigning. https://www.baseball-reference.com/managers/cairomi01.shtml Rk Mgr Yrs From ▼ To W L W-L% Ties G>.500 G BestFin WrstFin AvRk Ejections 1 Pedro Grifol 1 2023 2023 43 66 .394 0 -23 109 4 4 4.0 4 2 Miguel Cairo 1 2022 2022 18 16 .529 0 2 34 2 2 2.0 1 3 Rick Renteria 4 2017 2020 236 309 .433 0 -73 545 2 4 3.5 24 4 Robin Ventura 5 2012 2016 375 435 .463 0 -60 810 2 5 3.8 15 5 Don Cooper 1 2011 2011 1 1 .500 0 0 2 3 3 3.0 0 6 Ozzie Guillen 8 2004 2011 678 617 .524 0 61 1295 1 4 2.4 27 White Sox Managers ranked by winning percentage (La Russa through Grifol): https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/CHW/managers.shtml Records over, at or under .500 by year .551 Gene Lamont 258-210 1992 1993 1994 1995 .529 Miguel Cairo 18-16 2022 .524 Ozzie Guillen 678-617 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 .515 Jerry Manuel 500-471 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 .515 Jeff Torborg 250-235 1989 1990 1991 .513 Tony La Russa 678-644 1979 1980 1981 1982 1983 1984 1985 1986 2021 2022 .509 Terry Bevington 222-214 1995 1996 1997 .500 Doug Radar 1-1 1986 .500 Don Cooper 1-1 2011 .463 Robin Ventura 375-435 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 .461 Jim Fregosi 193-226 1986 1987 1988 .433 Ricky Renteria 236-309 2017 2018 2019 2020 .391 Pedro Grifol 43-67 2023

The Royals have cut the Sox lead to eight. One game per week is doable. Go Royals!

Texas drew 29,804 in a mid-week day game with fans having to go out in 104F weather to get there. I don't see the Sox drawing that many in any remaining game, with the Yankees a weeknight series. Would say a big influx of fans from Milwaukee is their best chance to break the 30K threshold.

I said I have a sliver of hope this is true (not saying it's a done deal, just a hope/suspicion). She said she closed the deal with Kenny Williams during her radio interview. "We had a handful of deals that we thought were there, or close to being there, but we really felt we had to get one locked in. So at that point we decided to go with Mr. Burger. Called Kenny Williams, got that one done, in the books.... I have a pretty good relationship with Kenny." The Sox have scored in 0 or 1 innings in 34% of their ballgames, and 0 - 2 innings in 57% of their games. White Sox Record Scoring In Regulation (Extra Innings not considered, but results are) 0-10 Zero Innings 9% 5-22 One Inning 24% 9-17 Two Innings 24% 17-13 Three Innings 27% 9-4 Four Innings 12% 1-1 Five Innings 2% 2-0 Six Innings 2%

It's possible, but with the rumors last week Kenny was in charge and Kim Ng confirming it, I am hoping Hahn has been told or has an inkling he is in the "Giolito, Lynn, Graveman, Reynaldo, Burger Bucket" in terms of not being in the White Sox' 2024 plans.

Just over a minute in. "We had a handful of deals that we thought were there, or close to being there, but we really felt we had to get one locked in. So at that point we decided to go with Mr. Burger. Called Kenny Williams, got that one done, in the books.... I have a pretty good relationship with Kenny."

I have a sliver of hope with Hahn's statement on Tuesday: "You will hear directly what the plan is for the people in charge." - Rick Hahn 8/1/23

Fox was an excellent player, but the Veterans Committee for MLB players should have been retired shortly after WWII. HOF should represent the top 1-2 players for each generation. MLB Second Baseman Napoleon Lajoie 1896-1916 Eddie Collins 1906-1930 Rogers Hornsby 1915-1937 Frankie Frisch 1919-1937 Charlie Gehringer 1924-1942 Jackie Robinson 1947-1956 Joe Morgan 1963-1984 Rod Carew 1967-1985 Ryne Sandberg 1981-1997 Craig Biggio 1988-2007 Roberto Alomar 1988-2004 Robinson Cano 2005-2022

That's Eloy's job if you swap brother with mother.

Yes, he is an upgrade over the worst statistical pitcher on the roster. fWAR Starters 2.4 Cease 0.9 Clevinger 0.3 Toussaint 0.1 Banks -0.6 Kopech fWAR Relievers 1.3 Santos 1.1 Bummer 0.2 Scholtens 0.1 Peralta 0.0 Padilla 0.0 Navarro -0.1 Hendriks -0.1 Shaw -0.1 Crochet -0.2 Colome -0.2 Cronin -0.4 Lambert

Well he could be at home, not being paid by the White Sox, and posting on SoxTalk. So there's that.

Opening Day 2021 $128.7M 15th Opening Day 2022 $193.4M 7th Opening Day 2023 $181.2M 13th Opening Day 2024 $98.0M (Minimum to cover 6 players) Opening Day 2025 $40.8M (Minimum to cover 2 players) Opening Day 2026 $22.8M (Minimum to cover Benintendi) Opening Day 2027 $16.5M (Minimum to cover Benintendi) Current Players Opening Day 2024 Players under contract $86.5M $24.0M Moncada $16.5M Benintendi $15.0M Hendricks (Jerry can release and pay $1.5M per year for 10 years) $13.0M Jimenez $12.5M Robert Junior $5.5M Bummer Players with options $5.0M $4.0M Clevinger ($12.0M mutual option) $1.0M Anderson ($14.0M to retain) Players eligible for Arbitration, ML Minimum or Release Arbitration II (2): Cease, Kopech Arbitration I (5): Crochet, Foster, Lambert, Sheets, Vaughn Minimum + (20): Alexy, Banks, Colas, Cronin, Gonzalez, Haseley, Lee, Martin, Navarro, Padilla, Patino, Peralta, Perez, Ramos, Remillard, Rodriguez, Santos, Scholtens, Sosa, Zavala 2023 DFA Buyouts $6.5M $5.5M Garcia $1.0M Diekman Current Players Minimum Opening Day 2025 Payroll $40.8M Players under contract $31.5M $16.5M Benintendi $15.0M Robert Players with options $9.3M $5.0M Moncada ($25.0M to retain) $3.0M Jimenez ($16.5M to retain) $1.3M Bummer ($7.3M to retain) Current Players Opening Day 2026 $22.8M Player under contract $16.5M $16.5M Benintendi Players with options $6.3M $3.0M Jimenez ($18.5M to retain) $2.0M Robert ($20.0M to retain) $1.3M Bummer ($7.5M to retain) Current Players Opening Day 2027 $16.5M Player under contract $14.5M $14.5M Benintendi Player with options $2.0M $2.0M Robert ($20M to retain)

Keep Dabbing Tim!

Exit Velocity Anderson 1B 62.9 Benintendi 1B 63.9 Sheets 1B 80.8 Colas 1B 89.3 Benintendi 1B 93.9 Vaughn 1B 75.5

Another indication he should be shut down and either have his back surgery they have avoided the past three months or until he is fully healthy and can perform all aspects of the game without pain.

OPS 700s Vaughn .736; Benintendi .709; Remillard .702 OPS 600s: Grandal .698; Thompson .668; Sheets .648; Moncada .622 OPS 500s: Anderson .577; Colas .504