Chimpton

Do you really think they would get much for Lynn, Graveman, Hendriks or Moncada based on current form and/or injury records? Not arguing just curious. And wouldn't Robert, Cease and Kopech be a core you would want to rebuild around?

Who are these valuable trade commodities? There are none in the lower league system and probably only Robert and Anderson would get much from the MLB team.

Who would we use to get this 'big, big trade'? The farm is empty and the young players like Sheets and Burger wouldn't get much in return, even more experienced players like Eloy or Moncada wouldn't get much in return. The only players who would get much in return are Anderson, Robert, Giolito and probably Vaughan, and if you are trading them away it is more than a retooling. The biggest 'trade' would be to trade in the manager and get one who is vaguely competent.

Playing by numbers loss- when the whole team seems to be going through the motions when batting and make little league fielding errors.

After again coughing up 2 runs in the 9th last night, the Sox bullpen is leading the MLB in runs conceded in the 9th inning of games averaging 0.59 runs per game (although that was before last night's game).

Must be a lot of gimmicks in the Sox clubhouse then.

a) so do any stats matter? Dallas 'pitched his ass off' for 5 innings and Hendricks blew that in 5 outs. b) He didn't get through those 5 outs though because he gave up the run that tied the game.

Once again it seems ridiculous that Hendricks gets a win for blowing the save and robbing Keuchel of a deserved win. Two good games in a row from Dallas and he got the win in neither of them.

It all depends if he is asymptomatic.

Typical law suit by lawyers involving an ex-employee that covers everything 'sexual orientation, age and disability'. Of course if any of the allegations are true then it is curtains for Hahn and a big pay out in compensation from the Sox.

Yes but did the Phillies also have a dodgy batting line up who can't hit RHP, no starting depth a crumbling pen and a senile manager?

Collapses like that are exactly why we should be concerned. The win streak was nice but we were hardly playing world class ball and giving up 6 in the 9th yesterday was just shameful.

That's if you can call what he is doing 'managing'.

Just wanted to congratulate Dallas on a decent effort today. I thought bringing him out for the 6th was pushing our luck and so it proved.

The team is still 20th in batting average and 29th in fielding so whilst they have got better there is still plenty of room for improvement.

A 5 game winning streak against 2 poor teams, if they can continue this against better opponents then I will stop being concerned but 5 games is a good start. Also it wasn't so much the fact that they were losing so many games it was more the fact that they were so bad in all those games and lacked basic fielding, batting or pitching ability that was the bigger concern.

It just seems ridiculous when a SP can get a loss for pitching one terrible innings that sets you on the way to a loss but can't get a win for pitching 4 scorless innings! Still I suppose all rules don't have to make sense.

Just a quick question from a UK Sox fan still learning all the rules, but how come Reynaldo gets given the win just for pitching the 5th? Kopech pitched 4 scorless innings when all the Sox runs were scored.

Most of that is caused by the one game, in the others he has allowed 3, 4 and 0 runs. I'm not saying he is good, or that he should necessarily stay on the team, just that when your 5th starter is giving up 3 or 4 runs and getting no run support he will lose, and last night was not his fault as the pen once again coughed up runs and they cost us.

Whilst Keuchal has undoubtedly been poor this season, he has had very little offensive support across his 4 games 10 runs in 4 games to be precise, and 5 of them came in the 9th yesterday. In two of his losses the team mustered a grand total of 1 run in support. He is definitely a 5th or 6th starter but we knew that already, but the biggest problem is the absolutely pathetic offense that is doing nothing to help out the starting pitching no matter how weak that pitching has been.

The weather must have suddenly warmed up.

To score runs you have to be able to hit the ball

When only one player in the line up has a BA over.230 and 5 have a BA below .200 I'm not sure you can expect a win with Keuchal pitching.

Also realistically a retool with the players we have to trade would be nigh on impossible, which players other than Vaughan, Cease, Kopech and Giolito (none of whom you would want to trade if it was just a retool) would actually generate much of a return

When does the rebuild begin? The 'years' of sustained success after the last one seem to have come to an end.