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I know but it is so much fun to overreact to one bad loss. ?

With the Opening Day that we feared would never happen now upon us what do we expect to see against Detroit? I predict Giolito will give 4 good innings before things get a bit scary when the bullpen takes over and we hang on to a nervy win!

I'm just waiting for the first comment that trading away Kimbrel was a mistake ?

I would be happy at the moment if they both stayed healthy and lasted the season.

Unfortunately until the scans it is hard to know, I am a football (soccer) fan here in the UK and have seen player walk off after a knee injury but then it turns out worse than expected and equally seen them stretchered off but be back in a few weeks. There are different levels of tear to the acl or mcl but even if it is 'only' an ongoing soreness problem it is not a good sign going in to the season and is a warning that relying on Lynn to last the full season would be reckless, another 1-3 SP is needed asap.

I stand corrected.

No it isn't it has just become culturally unacceptable.

It was also a top 5 'on paper' last year but didn't make it that far, I would be happy with a team that performs better than it is predicted 'on paper' even is that team doesn't win it all.

Tough choice! But I think the latter.

Nothing in my post was putting the 'FO on full blast' I was merely questioning whether ranking the WS as 4th best in the MLB was realistic when the rotation potentially looks weaker in 2022 with the loss of Rodon, and that the depth did not appear to be there. Bearing in mind that last season's pitching wasn't able to take us beyond the first round in the play offs.

Just read the article on MLB pages that has the White Sox down as the 4th best rotation in baseball this season, even with Keuchal as one of them, and Kopech moving into starting with limited innings. Is this a realistic assessment? And are we just one injury to Giolito or Lynn away from a big problem? Because there doesn't appear to be any real depth in starting pitching unless one of the AAA pitchers will surprise us all.

Either his age or he is on the sauce bottle again.

Although Vaughan did injure himself fielding yesterday! ?

Sorry I was wrong in my original post it was 2019 that he was twice injured in collisions while fielding, 2020 it was while celebrating a win! But he did still start 122 games in 2019 and 55 of 60 in 2020, so it was only 2021 that he missed a large part due to injury. I'm not saying he is golden glove material but personally I think finding a RF is a bigger issue at the moment than having to find an alternative to Eloy in LF. I may of course be wrong, it wouldn't be the first or the last time!

He has hurt himself 3 times while fielding in outfield, twice in 2020 and the long term one in 2021. So he hardly injures himself every game. Yes he is clumsy but he is far from the injury prone goof that people make him out to be.

Is Eloy really a 'defensive liability'? He may not be a great left fielder, or ever likely to be, but he has only made 2 errors in the last 2 (albeit brief) seasons, so far from a liability. And his fielding percentage for the last 3 seasons of .985 is again not spectacular but is actually league average for left fielders in that same period. Granted his injury last season was stupid for Spring Training but to describe him as a danger to himself and others is an exaggeration.

Come on Eloy not getting hurt! Next you will be saying Adam Engel goes a season without appearing on the DL ?

Don't worry I am not Rick, and I would probably do an even worse job than him if my efforts on OOTP are anything to go by! ?

I know it is very early in Spring Training but have any of the call ups impressed you enough to think that they will play a part in 2022?

If the Sox had signed Rodon to a deal like this then it would have provoked more than 3 pages of arguing.

I would just like to say how refreshing it is to see everyone back to arguing about on field matters again!

As an outsider watching all of this, what really surprises me if that the two sides are not negotiating every minute of every day to solve this stand off. There seems to be no real urgency from either side, and MLB seems unconcerned about cancelling 2 weeks of the season and the players seem equally unconcerned.

Thanks for the info, does that mean that say Charlotte Knights don't make money for themselves and are all part of the overall White Sox umbrella?

As a UK Sox fan who has read this thread to try and educate myself more about this lockout, one thing that shocks me is how little most minor league players get paid. I know they are not MLB standard and many are young hopefuls but the games still get attendances who pay to go to the games and buy concessions etc. I know the aim is to make the MLB but for those who don't but have a good MiLB career they really should be paid better and should be able to afford accommodation that is not subsidized by the club.

And politics has nothing to do with sporting achievement which is what the HoF should be about. There are plenty of unpleasant characters who were great players in the HoF.