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But seriously what would you get for most of those names? Some untried low end prospects would be all you would get for most of them, and if you lose Lynn and Giolito and Cueto then who would actually pitch in the rotation? I am all for change but the simple fact is that there are precious few trade chips left that would get a decent return other than names you would not want to trade.

You can't right a ship that is holed below the waterline. They will bumble along around the .500 mark and we will keep thinking what ifs. like what if they were all healthy, they aren't and the track record suggests they won't be on a regular basis. what if they go on a run like in 1983, how often does that happen and really this team doesn't look like they are capable. the 'easy' schedule is only easy if they can actually beat these teams, they just lost 4-0 to the Orioles! trade for a LH power bat, trade with what exactly? The only trade pieces worth anything you would want to keep and others like Eloy or Moncada have low value atm. All this suggests that an in season one trade would not be enough to right the wrongs.

That is the whole point why has Toronto got a better line up and deeper talent when the Sox are supposedly in their 'window' following a rebuild?

What sort of limit do you thing he should have? What sort of innings limit do you think the Sox will do?

At some point they need to look at managing the innings Kopech pitches and that will either put more strain with bullpen days or mean acquiring a starter of some sort to eat up those innings, as the Sox minor league starting options seem minimal.

More likely Hahn will now trade him for a AAA pitcher just when he is actually hitting!

I woke up at 4.15 am here in the UK to see the Whites Sox 4-2 down in the bottom of the 9th and watched the game from then on, what a big win this could prove to be, the offense seems to have finally come to life and we are getting hits throughout the line up not just relying on one or two hot players. The hustle and drive to win also seem to be back after so long in the doldrums, winning breeds winning and if the Sox can maintain and build on this momentum something great might just happen second half of the season.

Especially as there is still the hope that Moncada is young enough that he could improve his offensive numbers again if injury free (a big if I know) whereas Grandal and Lynn will fall away with age.

Seriously need an internal investigation into whatever they are doing in pre-season strength and conditioning, and in game warm ups etc because the number of hamstring problems and other muscle injuries to position players is getting ridiculous. I know that injuries are expected over a 162 game season but we are not even at halfway and virtually every position player has spent time on the IL, it is hardly surprising that so few of them have any offensive rhythm. Not only that the hamstring injuries have not exactly come when players are using explosive speed which is when they are most common, Grandal was jogging to first and Eloy was hardly sprinting. This number of injuries suggests more than a 'bit of bad luck' and smells more of lack of conditioning and preparation.

After a good series against Detroit this was a real downer, and yet another hamstring injury, somebody really needs to look at how players are warming up and the strength and conditioning preparation in Spring Training because this many muscle problems is not 'normal' wear and tear.

Thanks, that is what I thought.

Just a question from one who doesn't know, but what is the convention when a team puts up a position player to pitch, are you supposed to take it seriously and get a hit and try to get runs or go easy on them, just curious because there was 3 innings of it today which is the first time I have seen so many innings of position pitching players in one game

Vaughn is still young and the way he has coped with playing new positions in a stumbling team has been impressive, there is a lot more pressure on him to perform regularly due to the injuries but he seems to have the temperament to go with the talent and that above anything else is impressive.

Might have been 'only' Detroit but that was a good effort from the beat up White Sox to make it drama free, but a week or 2 without injuries would be nice!

Fair point.

The point is should the closer have been the one 'ready to go' in that situation.

The Indians fiasco can't be used as an excuse to always pitch your closer no matter what the lead. If you are seriously saying that Hendricks was the only reliever capable of defending a 5 run lead then we are in more trouble than I thought.

We could always organise a rota of SoxTalk posters as guest managers for the rest of the season.

Well we could always trade Vaughan for Craig Kimbrel. ?

So instead of 'burning out' one of the other relievers you burn out your star closer.

I think the bigger question is does Jose want to do another year. Before this season he was sounding a bit like this could be his last season if his love of the game wasn't there, but maybe his good recent form will change his mind.

Spoken like a true fan, be happy because we are not as bad as we should be! ?

Or 2 weeks after TA gets back, or 2 weeks after Grandal gets back or Eloy gets back, or whoever the next injury is.

There is probably someone on the Detroit fan site saying exactly the same thing about the White Sox! ?

That is far too sensible a suggestion for it to happen, instead he will be trotted out again and probably make the injury worse and miss the rest of the season!