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Battle of the Field Mice: Sox at Pirates 7/18 5:40 CDT
greg775 replied to chitownsportsfan's topic in 2025 Season in Review
Robert's game today should assure his being traded. The trade of course is not gonna help our immediate chances of getting better. Even though he's been a disaster today's performance shows what he (still) is capable of doing. On paper you need young guys like Quero, Montgomery, Robert to go with guys like Beni and Vargas. I'm not suddenly saying Robert is special but I would think after today his trade value is never higher. He looked like Tatis or somebody good. When the Sox blow teams out like that you wonder why we can't at least play .500 and contend in our pathetic division. -
Ugh. Now am I a Royals fan too? Why don't you give me a Sox test past and present and see what score I'd get? My dad's partner at the board of trade was a Sox owner til he died. I bet Lip knows who the owner is. I went to tons of games as a kid into high school and college til I left town. But now I love Witt? No sir.
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35 results. How many posts do I have? So was Witt mentioned in about 1 percent of them total?
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I don't think so because I don't even know the particulars. I haven't talked about Witt at all on here. I rarely talk about the draft in any way on here. Except lately I've used Vaughn as ammo in arguing against salivating over draft picks and wanting to lose to get a top draft pick like Vaughn who stunk. ... To tell you the truth I've been busy and at this moment I don't know who we took in the recent MLB draft. I assume it's a pitcher or high school slugger, prolly a pitcher.
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You must admit some of the Sox first round draft picks that folks were drooling over the possibilities via tanking have been crud. That's why I always laughed at those who were rooting for losses that one year in expectation of a better draft pick. I always wanted wins over our front office's choice for first round.
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Ugh. I guess my knowledge of past Sox and stories have gone unnoticed on here over 20 years or more. That's on me. If my posts have screamed "Cub fan" then it's on me as a very very very poor communicator. Before Jerry decided to hoard every single penny for whatever or whoever he gives his money to, I used to have epic meltdowns on here over losses against the Cubs and Royals especially. I bled game to game. But I am a Cub fan. Oh my gosh. Oh well, like I said it's on me if that is the impression. Yes I know of Tommie Agee and Tommy John and Dick Allen and do not know of any Cubs except those of my childhood when my grandfather took me to Cub games and dad to Sox games with that everyday group of Kessinger, Beckert, Williams, Santo, Banks, Hickman, Hundley, Rudolph/Qualls and Bill Hands. That same grandfather fell leaving a Sox game with me and Sox management was great getting us an ambulance. ... So in conclusion I am an utter failure of a communicator if anybody thinks I care about the Cub. I even know JC Martin was one of Harry's color announcers in a move that was a failure; as well as Lou Brock, but I love the Cubs, baby.
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Don't some of you fans of teardown/rebuilding long to have players for long Sox careers like Baines, Hurt, Robin, Ozzie, Shingo, Thiggy, Buehrle? Aren't you crying with us traditionalists? A city as big as Chicago should be embarrassed the Sox have no local heroes. Sox actually draw pretty well considering management has done all it can to disenfranchise. Jerry baby should be embarrassed his team is so far behind the other small market teams in baseball.
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Crochet, Rodon, Sale, oh. my. We traditionalists are crying. The tank/rebuilders shrug and dream about acquiring name draft picks like Vaughn, who stunk here. I do realize Jerry not willing to pay also has a bit to do with it but it's no fun to be a fan of an organization that can't keep good players and has to have a run of guys like Tauchman, Rojas, Taylor, Slater, DeJong, Lopez, those types.
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Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
greg775 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I bet the Royals would trade the Sox Massey and two of their better pitching prospects for Robert. But we don't trade with teams in our division. Maybe that's a Jerry thing if Jerry still cares about the team at all. Helping one's divisional rival or the Cubs used to be a no-no, prolly still is. I betcha we keep Robert cause nobody is gonna offer enough. -
Best curveball in Chicago history: Ken Holtzman of the Cubs. Best Sox curveball in history: Prolly Mark B or Bobby. Maybe Gary Peters or LaMarr Hoyt.
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I love the word "monstrosity" in your post here. We go from lovable Comiskey to the blue lagoon. Do a youtube search of people who rate ballplayers and always give Comiskey a horrible grade on their reviews.
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Thanks Mighty Mite. Incredible information in your post. Can't believe your mama did that with the coat. That's sort of like most everybody's mama throwing out the baseball cards. You must have been a nice little kid to actually wear the Cubs coat. You must not have wanted to anger your mom. It'd be tough for a kid to wear a Cub jacket to Sox Park. Amazing how all the men wore hats in those days. And doubly amazing wearing a suit and tie to a game on a hot day. Or any summer day/night. The main difference in eras of course is price of tickets and concessions and parking. Until Steinbrenner started paying the big contracts the best seats in the park were about 8 bucks or so. Selfish owners just had to outbid each other for players every year with prices skyrocketing. I'd say anybody willing to pay these prices to see a team as woebegone as the Sox the last several years truly is not of sound mind. And anybody who'd pay 10 bucks or more for a can of Miller Light may want to consider alcohol anonymous. Of course a bottle of water is probably 7 bucks and a Coke probably 9 or 10. I remember as a high schooler driving to Chicago Stadium quite often to catch a Bulls game. Oh, so cheap to attend and you could buy tickets at the gate like a movie theatre. Hawks games were a little bit more expensive and mostly sold out so it wasn't the same for them.
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oops. Sorry. Good correction. Hey Caulfield, you have lived in China a long time. Just wondering as an internet 'friend.' Have you lost your Midwest/American accent? The reason I ask is I know somebody who moved to Ireland and in 6 months or 8 months had a full on Irish accent. Somebody mentioned it to her at a party and she started crying.
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What the heck do the players want now? Geez.
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What was the atmosphere in Comiskey back then? Did many male fans wear suit and tie? And did the women get all dressed up? Did the men wear hats like in the old footage? Did fans complain as much as today? I'll say this. Aside from postseason 05 the atmosphere in Comiskey was most magical (in the history of the old yard) in 77 with the South Side Hit Men. Amazingly it was the true Summer of Love. Fans would hi five each other, hug as the Sox battered the baseball all over the park and over the fence. Even Gamble, Spencer, Soderholm, Bannister probably all had career highs in homers that year or bullets banging off the wall. ... Amazingly that team, which had no defense of course, completely got bulldozed by Hal McRae and the Royals down the stretch and finished a zillion games out after leading the division all June and July into early August when the kids went back to school. If life could be as joyous as the summer of 77 everybody would be on Cloud Nine in Chicago. And who better than Harry Caray to call the games in 77? Bill Veeck forever. He better be in the Hall of Fame. He should be.
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That was a good game today by the way. Musings as we enter the all-star break ... -- Beni is a good ballplayer, folks. Can't understand why a contender doesn't want him except for the fact his arm is probably one of the weakest in all of baseball. -- Robert is hot (for him). He seems to get at least one hit a game of late. I'm thinking he has a 4 or 5 game hit streak as we speak. -- Quero has a good arm and could be a sensational big leaguer. -- The Sox pitching staff doesn't interest me or even intrigue me. -- Why isn't Meidroth walking more? I thought that was his forte. -- Montgomery is a stud. -- The reunion stuff was neat to watch on X and youtube. I worship Ozzie Guillen in a non religious sense. My gosh I love that guy. And just 20 years ago we had four fricking complete games in the World Series. Imagine that. It took about 15 years after that for starting pitchers to cut their workload to five innings, six max. (Oh for the days of my childhood when we'd fight Cub fans at school the day before and after the all star game. It meant something for our beloved AL to win. Now, yawn.
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Makes sense. Falstaff by the way is the first beer I got drunk on. We southside kids in the summer between 8th grade and freshman year got somebody to buy us beer which scared the hell outta me when a friend asked somebody to buy for us. We buried the cans by a golf course where my friends caddied and went to them on a Friday night, dug up the beers and drank a 12 pack between 3-4 guys. Yes the beer was warm and gross but kids will be kids. Falstaff forever!
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I should probably drop the topic but you really think Chase is wearing down? My gosh this isn't NFL football. If he's tired, take less BP. I get frustrated with how much ballplayers need rest. Cal Ripken needed no rest.
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How can you say we've gotten smarter when the few guys I mentioned (so many more, just check all star rosters in the 60s and 70s and 80s dominated? I think I read Mark B's arm hurt once in a while but it didn't matter. He excelled for 8-9 innings. Gary Peters said his arm hurt too sometimes. That's why we saw all those pictures of pitchers icing their arms. I think Koufax threw in pain too sometimes. Not always.
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Why? In the old days of Jack Morris, Gary Peters, Bob Gibson, Fergie Jenkins, LaMarr Hoyt, Juan Marachal, Mark Buehrle, such things as rest were not considered. Ballplayers played ball. To heck with pitch counts in college and workload. They just pitched.
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I read your whole post and enjoyed it. Good stats; good post. ... However I tire of the White Sox having possible solutions to problems or expected problems no other teams with a clue ever have. This desire to save arms for the future, rest the arms now. And worrying about things to do for players in hitting slumps. Look, Meidroth plays every day and see what you have. If he's utterly pathetic and you have to bench him, fine. And Smith ... geez. Just have the guy pitch. If you deem his stuff has become totally hittable either send him to the minors or suffer with his bad performances. It's a long season. If the Sox think Vargas is a big league regular, play him every day with the occasional day off. That's baseball.
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Luis Robert trade thread: La Pantera stays.
greg775 replied to ChiSoxFanMike's topic in Pale Hose Talk
I can't think of a good fit for Robert. Hell, maybe Milwaukee again with Vaughn off to a good start there. Or the Cubs. Do they need a pinch hitter type for the stretch run or a regular DH? The Royals might be a landing spot but KC doesn't make real trades with the Sox. -
Aggressive Blue Jays @ Pale Hose 7/8 6:40 CDT
greg775 replied to chitownsportsfan's topic in 2025 Season in Review
No doubt Sox have a weird roster. -
Aggressive Blue Jays @ Pale Hose 7/8 6:40 CDT
greg775 replied to chitownsportsfan's topic in 2025 Season in Review
Kudos to fathom. He has posted a long time and yet never offends anybody or acts like a know it all. Some of us have poster flaws on occasion. Fathom is an MVP poster IMO.
