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QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 09:00 PM) I totally agree. It doesn't matter if that hitter is 0.000 against left-handers and your season is almost over during a pennant race. You just don't pinch hit in that scenario. I thought I got some support on this "old" argument. You don't play Kotsay. We all know that is the correct move. But if you do play Kotsay, you don't pull him in the fifth inning. I mean when making the decision to play a guy, there is a chance that the starter will get knocked out and a lefty will be in the game. Don't play Kotsay, but if you do play him, you don't bat for a starter in the fifth inning. Name one manager who will do that move.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:55 PM) You never pinch hit for a starter such as Kotsay. Even if a lefty reliever comes in. You just don't. My God. Not in the fifth inning.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 08:52 PM) You should just stop watching baseball. You have no idea what you're even talking about anymore. He has eight homers and 40 ribbies in 200 at bats.

QUOTE (spiderman @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 06:15 PM) We shouldn't, but we can't take any game for granted. Cleveland has performed well against the White Sox, and that bullpen is a disaster waiting to happen in any game. We've had way too many problems against the bottom feeders (KC, Cleveland, and Baltimore specifically) to just assume a victory is a given. With the Sox, you never take any game for granted. It's not like Manny is assured of pulling a Rios and going 4-for-5 tonight. His stats this year, in fact, suck. I wouldn't mind seeing him in the lineup, but I could give a s*** if we win, anyway. It's not like his presence assures anything.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 04:58 PM) Given that the Sox are now paying Manny over $100k a game, why didn't the Sox just line up a private flight if necessary? Who cares about money? This is baseball where even the Pittsburgh Pirates make a huge profit. If we can't beat Cleveland w/out Manny we don't deserve to make the playoffs. He'll play tonight. He'll be the hero. He'll request to play and everybody will make a big deal out of the fact Manny wanted to help his team out sooo much he played on a day he had to travel. It's all set up for him to be the hero tonight.

QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 07:06 AM) that's really stupid, considering this has been a month in the works Funny how Oz, KW, Paulie, all said we didn't need to make a move. The perception was they were worried about chemistry. Now a faceplant later, we did need a bat they decided (not to mention another arm to go with Sale) and we bring in Manny. That one stretch of 0-for-19 or whatever it was ended all hope Viciedo was ready, since he was going to swing at everything at least at this young age. Hope it's not too late. Four games, as you know, is a bundle this time of year. We can't afford to let it get to six or you can forgetaboutit. The Twinsies aren't going to blow a six-game lead. I'm sure Oz is at the point he's gonna give Linebrink some chances after tonight's excellence.

Rios' stroke has been really good lately. It makes you wonder how crazy this sport is. He went a long long time with very few extra base hits, now he's bombing again. His last 2 homers I watched were things of beauty.

If their posts were not meant to be negative, my bad. But if they are not meant to be negative, they are kinda wacky. I don't see the problem in making him sounds good. If you wanna hear him sound Ozzie, just type his name into youtube. You'll get plenty of clips.

You guys hate Ozzie so much you want him to look bad when he speaks? You bag on the person who makes him look good? Wow. Can't believe anybody would hate a WS winning manager that much and a guy who played ss for our team forever.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 31, 2010 -> 12:42 AM) Manny being Manny. Get used to it. Yep. Great post.

QUOTE (Real @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 09:33 PM) Why does manny have to cut his dreads when our closer waddles out there with a seemingly urine-soaked patch of filth that his face is growing off of Wow. That has to be the grossest, most sickening post I've ever read. Why do the Sox have to pay Manny til 2013? Does that mean he's with us next year?

As far as booing, I know my point is hypocritical, but I think Manny is a bad enough guy I could justify booing when he makes and out, just as I could justify booing Belle. Why? Manny has a track record of being an ass THIS SEASON. The Dodgers can't get rid of him fast enough. If anybody in baseball deserves booing based on quitting on his team again, it is Manny. Cheer him if he gets on base; boo his ass if he sucks.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 08:24 PM) What makes him a bum? Being one of the best hitters ever? You're not using bum the correct way. Kotsay is a bum. Read the Passon story. Lots of evidence on yahoo he is a major bum. Maybe turd is the better word. I'm all in favor of winning at all costs on the professional level. Bring him in. I just hope the fans at the Cell cheer his every hit and boo him mercilessly on every out. He accepted all that adulation in LA then when he tired of the city, s*** on his teammates and fans, which he will do here as well. Let's beat him to the punch. Demand he produce or boo his ass off the field before he does it to the Sox as he has other teams. Cmon quitter ... let's play ball. Lead us to the pennant big guy. Sox pay you 4 mill; lets see a 4 million dollar month or boo you off the field.

QUOTE (BigEdWalsh @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 08:12 PM) Wrong. I worked in 5 star hotels for 20 years. Lots of human beings do such disgusting things. Tell us more.

I agree there's joy in baseball and life. Forgive me for not applauding the team for acquiring a guy, who by all accounts, is a bum. A rich bum if that's possible. I hope he hits .400 for the month with 15 home runs and we beat out the Twins. I am not saying he can't excel. I just think he's a turd. You can polish a turd all you want, but a turd will always be a turd. This will not end well. But if he can bring us another WS title, great. I'll take it. I just want the Sox to use him for his ability and the fans to challenge him to excel. I'm not normally in favor of booing, but I hope we boo him on every out, and praise him when he gets a hit.

September is too late for mania to take hold anyway. Summer is over. Kids back in school. The marathon season is in the stretch run. Manny will either produce and help us beat the Twins, which is very unlikely considering the Twins' schedule compared to ours, or Manny won't. There should be very little Manny mania this time of year with football starting, etc. I can't believe there's no discussion of the yahoo article indicating how Manny has repeatedly quit on his teammates. Just do it, Manny. You are no big deal in the great city of Chicago. You have to prove something first here.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 08:00 PM) You can thank you're wonderful manager for this acquisition because of his bone-headed decision to use Kotsay as his primary DH this season. That's quite a stretch. There are other guys KW could have acquired than this bum. I'm all for him helping the team win. I'm just glad Sox fans are keeping an open mind and not embarrassing themselves by having some catch phrase like Mannywood for his arrival. He should be treated as just another guy. I wish that WGN announcer would tell the Boston media of that story about Manny in the hotel. Maybe they'll look into it if the Chicago and LA media don't want to. It has to be untrue. No human being would do what that story alleges.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 01:32 PM) How do you know what financial impact it has? Its $4 million that could have been spent on something more useful, perhaps earlier in the season. Manny is 38 and injured. If he could lead a team from a 4.5 game deficit all by himself, you would think he would have been in the line up this past weekend. QUOTE (That funky motion @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 07:05 PM) Got this from a certain radio announcer, from WGN who comes in my business. He said the real reason Manny got traded from the Red Sox, is because he took a dump in the middle of a hotel room, where the Red Sox where staying on the road. Apparently, he asked the maid for more towels and when she didn't leave any, he took a dump in the room. The hotel manager called Theo and the rest is history. I guess it was a 5 star hotel also!! I hope that Manny story about the dump is true because to tell such a disgusting story if not true means that WGN radio announcer is a wacked out idiot. If it is true, the media should flush that one out (ha). That story MUST be printed. If Manny did that, he truly is the most disgusting human alive, OK ONE of the most disgusting. If that story is true ... Manny is disgusting human waste. Obviously the money means something to the Dodgers. They have to be rejoicing today, getting some team to pay that bum for the rest of the season.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 30, 2010 -> 07:23 AM) I must be missing something. Manny was an integral part of two World Series title teams in Boston. Almost single-handedly pushed the Dodgers to the postseason in 2008. BUT OMG, HE'S NOT A GOOD GUY! The guy has an OPS of over .900 in the limited time he's played this year. Yeah, almost 4 million to one guy for a little over a month's work isn't ideal. But how could anybody say it wouldn't be worth it if he helps us get to the playoffs? Would it be better if we just stood pat and continued to roll wit Kotsay and the all or nothing Jones? I commend Kenny, who I've been very critical of this year, for not giving up and attempting to right an obvious wrong back in March. As for steroids? GET THE f*** OVER IT! I'm stoked about this addition. It's worth the gamble. Still, he is an ass (read Passon's take on yahoo cover) and a cheater. Quitting on teammates is bulls*** and he's done it twice now. Completely horses***. But it's worth one month of the bum. Hope he can help us pick up five games on the Twins. We could have used him during the Yankee series as we faceplanted 2 of 3 at home. I'm just glad Sox fans are smart enough to embrace this guy but not LOVE him like the sheep in other cities. This is all about the White Sox not some love of a bum named Manny. Lead the team to the pennant, Manny, and earn your ridiculous salary. His stats this year have not been good.

Now the "weird" year continues. If we really are paying Manny 4 mill, why didn't we just sign some good free agent in the offseason? Weird weird.

Go read Passon's article on Yahoo. Manny is quite a bum. Great line in the article: Business must be good for White Sox owner Jerry Reinsdorf to flush $4.3 million down the toilet.

The AP story I just read said we still may have to give up a player or two as well as pay several million dollars. WTF. I'm against bringing him in, but if we are, no sense dwelling on what's done. Hopefully he can change our mojo of late and we'll play better on this road trip. He has a chance to start anew with us for this month. Hopefully it'll just be the next two months in a Sox uniform and that's it. This taken from the AP story: "The dreadlocked outfielder is batting .311 with eight homers and 40 RBIs in 66 games in 2010." That doesn't sound like a savior to me.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 10:51 PM) I just feel like it's possibly too late, and that there will be no interested in the Sox even if we have Manny if the upcoming road stand goes poorly. The delay in this is appalling. If we wanted Manny, he shoulda been here for the big NY series and definitely hould be there when we play Cleveland, another of the teams we sleepwalk against normally. Time is of the essence to wake up this slumbering team with Mr. Moody.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 10:57 PM) it has come down to hoping the Mariners save our asses for at least one more day...lol The Sox continue to be predictable. Predictable won't cut it. Win 2 of 3 vs the O's then lose 2 of 3 at home to New York. They blow a good starting performance today. Hope the team gets hot again. Going 3-3 vs. New York and the O's at home isn't very good when you are trying to make up ground.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 09:22 PM) Is Sale ready to pitch against the Yankees in this situation? I guess we'll find out. Teahen, Kotsay...doesn't really matter, they're just average and below-average MLB players, I don't expect that much out of them. There were never reasons to believe either player should be starting on a VERY GOOD team. Teahen will be the Sox starting third baseman next year which will not be good. I'd rather convince Omar to stay another year at the age of 50.