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I knew somebody was going to say that was a line drive. That was a weak ass "line drive." Maybe if he didn't bring a huge 2 by 4 piece of lumber up there he'd have a chance to be a serviceable baseball player. I said Mariano is great as a caveat. My point was no way in hell a stud like Rivera was going to let a scrub like Teahen keep that inning going. Yes, Rivera does it to everyone. I know. In his last 37 plate appearances, he has 2 walks and 10 strikeouts; about right for him. Last year in 561 plate appearances he had 37 walks and 123 Ks. That is really really sad.

Lot of guys thrown under the bus in this thread. Let me add my guys to toss under the bus. Teahen: Yes, I know Mariano is tough to hit, but my god, you knew he had absolutely no chance. Rivera is not going to let some utility player wannabee like Teahen be any kind of hero in the ninth. Yes, Rivera is god. No, I don't like Teahen and the ridiculously huge bat he takes to the plate. Uh, Mark, use a smaller bat. You look like Soriano up there with that way too big piece of lumber for your skill set. Torres: Just another guy who is very very bad at pitching. Pena: Maybe we should make him a starter. Try that. His relief work is not good. He did pretty well in that one start except for that one, lousy inning. Shame to hit like that at home and lose the game. Too bad we can't sweep s***ty teams like the Orioles during crunch time, cause the Twins are feasting on Seattle while we play New York. Kudos to most of the hitters tonight. Nine runs is enough normally at home.

If we get Manny, it's lights out for Kotsay or Jones. The questiion is, which one?

The crazy thing is, as much as it would have been nice to have Manny for this series (if we indeed were going to acquire him eventually anyway), the offense hasn't been the problem at all. Tonight's game is such a wasted opportunity, since we scored so many runs. But Danks sucked.

If I had to pick one word to describe the season to date, it would be "weird." The 25-5 out of nowhere. The horrible start. The incredible excellent starting pitching for a long stretch and then outings like Danks tonight. I realize all teams have similar s*** happen, but this season has been "weird" and am I a lousy fan for saying somewhat "frustrating?" It could be worse. One of these years we are going to be out of it in June and have something to realy complain about.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 29, 2010 -> 12:45 AM) If Sox are 5.5 games out come Monday or Tuesday, Manny and his contract while giving up prospects is just not worth it. Not to be a negative prick, but I agree. This is the second year in a row we may make an acquisition too late to mean s***. By the time Peavy started pitching, we were buried. I mean if we are 6 out on Tuesday, why would we want Manny ... unless we also want him the following season, which frankly, is possible.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 07:48 PM) Wouldn't a reverse jinx mean that what you say comes true? Yes, when I go overboard and say the Sox will get swept, they do well, etc. When I feel we will win, losses mount. I probably should stop it.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 11:41 AM) Some fan you are. You were saying before last night's game that we would lose and Freddy had no chance. Why bother watching and coming in here with all of your negativity? I'll have to get over my reverse jinx stuff. Whenever I am bitterly negative we win.

It's already pretty much too late, big russ. The p**** Twins are way ahead simply cause we can't beat them head to head. If it's close when we go to Minnie for that next 3 game series, it's heartbreak time again. We can't beat them.

Sounds from these recent developments that Torre despises Manny and Manny wants out. This guy should play for every team for 2 months and just move around baseball. I guess one month of him will be fine as long as they don't steal some good players from us which obviously they are trying to do. Why can't teams just dump players to the white sox? Why is it always this drama of them trying to steal us blind like Dunn???

Serious question that I know not the answer to: How does Blago support himself, wife and kids now? You'd think he'd be out of jack having good lawyers, etc., working on keeping him out of jail. His book doesn't figure to sell much, does it? Nobody wants to read him yapping about how great he is and how innocent he is.

Have you taught them that this is microcosm of real life? Have you taught them about the anonymous nature of posting giving people a feeling of power? That it leads to playground bullying and cliques and people forming alliances of sorts to gang up on others they disagree with? I think if you let them post all semester and give them the freedom to be themselves, you'd have a heck of a classroom tool to use. I find the message board mindset fascinating.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 04:41 AM) Kalapse is right. The Dodgers, for all their foibles, are actually dealing from a position of (relative) strength here. They’re having an issue where too much flexibility is actually getting in the way of Torre putting a lineup out there. So, for multiple reasons the Dodgers are better off with Manny gone. But that doesn't mean we should fall into the trap and overpay for him. Give them a Class A bum.

We have to sweep somehow if Minnie completes the sweep of the SeattleSuperSucks.

Yep, bye bye Jones. It would be nice to just DFA Kotsay though, in case we need Jones' defense in right in late innings in the playoffs and WS. Who cares if Kotsay is lefty? We got Teahen who is a tad better than Kotsay. I'd DFA Kotsay and keep Jones for defense if we get Mr. Dredlocks.

Beckham! Gotta love the guy. Also, isn't it amazing Pierre is hitting .290ish right now? Simply amazing. With 50 steals? That guy is the energizer buddy. Never quits. After that horses*** start of his to put up a good batting average. I'd have never thought it.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 03:37 AM) U. Jimenez was left in way too long by the Rockies manager. Twins opening up their game vs Mariners. Mariners just seem completely outclassed by the Twins. No way Minnie will faceplant. The twins will sweep. Nice win by us, though. Amazing how we can kick the Yankees' ass and look like s*** against the O's, Royals, Indians, Tigers. Much credit to Freddy. I didn't see the game but I saw his last couple where it looked like he was lobbing it in there. He's gutsy. He's had a fantastic season all things considered. Freddy!

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 04:21 AM) But he won't be on the team for any extended period of time. The last few years he's produced big in the playoffs. Well, we better not sign him for next year, then. Cause it was Mannywood and all happiness in LA last season and now it seems they can't get rid of him quick enough (after they try to rob us for some good players and not just one player to be named stiff).

QUOTE (beckham15 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 03:02 AM) i dont care what anyone says linebrink has looked decent lately....if there wasnt a blown call right there he wouldnt have given up the 2 run shot...not his fault Linebrink was the goat just what, one game ago or two? He walks a guy with two outs and promptly gives up the run that beats us in extra innings. That walk was a KILLER. Linebrink is not an option to pitch in any close game.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Aug 28, 2010 -> 03:56 AM) dylanohernandez #Manny looked excited when Blake went deep. Climbed to the top step of the dugout and pointed to some people in the stands. 8 minutes ago dylanohernandez Maybe #Manny isn't going anywhere... #Dodgers LA beat writer. I don't get it when they say they are going to wait to see if they are still in it, yet Manny sits? They have won two days in a row, hopeuly it becomes clear they can win without Manny. The Dodgers are about the same amount of games out of the playoff hunt as we are, yet they want to dump Manny. Why, oh why, is that? Because he's not the kind of guy you want on your team for any extended period of time. We better not give up anybody good for this aging slacker.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 11:10 PM) Embarrass the Sox fan base? So any time a fan boos a player, it's "embarrassing the fan base"? Gimmie a break man.... And it wasn't "my idea". QUOTE (ScottyDo @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 11:20 PM) Totally agree. The man losing his job should be punishment enough for his performance, especially considering he's been put in the position to be ridiculed. If he'd been playing his proper role, I doubt anybody would have cared. It IS very classless to rub this guy's nose in it when it's only partially his fault. I'd be pretty disgusted if our fan base pulled something like that. This isn't booing. It's chanting "Manny" when Kotsay is up. Man the counter arguments on here amaze me sometimes. Sorry I didn't know it was not you who started the post. My bad. I don't remember who posted what most of the time, unlike some people who apparently remember my positions on everything. Amen on the second post. Disgusted is a good word on this one.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 09:59 PM) Honestly you really can't, since your the only one who thinks it is/was cheating. Like I said, the definition of "owned" just happened.

It's not being a crabby guy thinking an idea that would embarrass the Sox fan base is a bad idea. Your idea was classless and not a good thing to do on any count. Chanting Manny when Ozzie brings the lineup card out ... that is funny.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Aug 27, 2010 -> 09:52 PM) Why shouldn't the first line deserve a comment? Those two got caught for steroids, just like Manny. So I should burn my 05 gear of those two stiffs? I don't have their jerseys. I publicly will now express my disdain about them. If they cheated, they deserve a lot of scorn. I don't like them for cheating. Do I approve of them cheating? No. I never said we should give up the WS trophy if anybody cheated.

I don't even have to get involved in this one. This was not a good example on the cheating topic. You are gonna get owned on this one.