greg775

I'm surprised he's done this well. It has to be difficult concentrating at the plate when you play for a team that on paper has no shot of making the playoffs because of a flawed roster. I hope we trade him so I don't have to hear this kind of stuff about my favorite Sox.

We're finally playing to our roster. Hard to believe we hovered near .500 for so long with this pitching staff and so many automatic outs. That said ... it's funny we play Central teams so many times that it's a different Sox and Royals team each time. This is a pathetic Sox team that will get swept. Other times we play KC we are a confident team on fire and win the series. My suggestion is the way we're playing on the road, bet the house the rest of the season on us to lose road games as well as taking the under. Hahn gets his way. He'll be flipping like a burger cooker the next few weeks.

Now that I see Collins looked mad at the airport, this is starting to steam me. He gets brought up and hardly plays at all then they acquire Reed for no good reason except the Sox had to have had Reed on their trade radar at some point in the tank/rebuild. Collins homered in his first at bat, didn't he? Instead of trying to ride that, they hardly play him at all. In another tank season, Sox should have had him get a couple months worth of at bats. He could split time with McCann and that'd be reasonable. Just release Beef or trade him for peanuts.

Poor Collins. He was mishandled terribly in this first stint in the bigs. He needed regular at bats.

Yes hopefully the Heyward thing was just one poster on here. Cause I might point out Avi woulda fit in nicely this season in RF and we don't need Heyward when we coulda kept Avi. Steer clear of Heyward. No reason to pay that guy (here I am trying to save Jerry "moneybags" Reinsdorf money again).

I love Harold Baines. Sox fans should celebrate all week! Good job Harold!

Charlie Tilson is loveable but close to worthless in terms of trade value. I mean, cmon. We love Charlie but he is just a tad better than John Jay.

I'm surprised nobody has wondered if vilehoopster is greg. His opinions are just like mine. I love vile!

Sure there is. Some fans still believe in winning above everything. I'd rather win meaningless games in September even if a better draft pick is at stake. It's easy to justify my position. I want my team to win any and every game it plays. Case closed.

Unfortunately (for anti tankers like me) attendance doesn't matter to owners anymore. They only care about TV revenue and MLB revenue accorded to all teams.

Unfortunately, time really flies and never stands still (as in 2005 lasting forever). I was thinking about that as I was driving in the car. In living here, I can tell you there was a ton of excitement here for those 4 1/2 years of Royals excellence but alas time does not stand still and the Royals again are unpopular and it's all Chiefs all the time. Unlike Sox fans, Royals fans never talk about flipping their rare good players (Whit, Soler) and talk of tank/rebuild is really not on the fans' minds. They just lose all interest. I think it's kind of a shame that the Royals are destined to suck the next 8 years or so in the hopes of again acquiring enough talent in the draft to make a run or two in the postseason. I like the old way of the Sox always being good even though they ultimately would fall short the last six weeks of most all seasons. I guess it's worth it to Royals fans as they wanted a WS title in their lifetimes and got one, but it seems weird to me you have to wait 8-10 years of your life for your team to get competitive again. I'm serious though. If Soler was a White Sox with his 25 homers we'd be talking incessantly about flipping him. And oh boy we'd want to flip Whit. Next unread topic Luis Robert

I was thinking about that today before the game knowing we were going to lose again. The A's pretty much always have a better roster than us and just as importantly don't sleepwalk against the Sox. They realize all Ws count the same and the wins they automatically rack up against us help them a lot in the big picture of pennant races. But Lip Man is right. They do always have a better product.

What??? If this is true, then I am totally vindicated on my disdain for the fricking draft and tanking. Our drafts have been that bad?? We got Robert internationally not in the draft. And Madrigal ... no offense but I've been told more than relievers, second basemen are truly a dime a dozen. Madrigal hopefully will excel but he doesn't make me jump for joy daily just thinking about him.

I'll comment since I do agree today killed our playoff hopes. We're 4 under .500 which means if we get hot it's still going to take another week or so just to get to .500. We're out of time with so many teams ahead of us and the Sox still kind of dysfunctional (and injured of course with Timmy out). Of course I never want us to sell but to please everybody I will now agree to sell and give you my specific trades. I will be sad when we sell Abreu and McCann especially, but I'm giving my OK to sell to please the board and trust that you all are right. The obvious candidates to sell are Jose, Colome, Bummer, Leury, Yolmer, Herrera, McCann, Beef, Jay, Rondon. I may be forgetting somebody, maybe Reed too. Since you guys insist we can always acquire relievers this offseason or in our system, I'll agree to trade Colome to the Cubs (or whoever needs a closer or 8th inning guy) in return for 2 VERY GOOD prospects, prospects our scouts believe will "make an impact" in the bigs someday. I realize Colome was only worth Narvaez to begin with, but now that he's been very good, Hahn must rob somebody and get two very good prospects as he did in the Eaton deal. Colome for 2 very good Cub prospects or to another team that will give us two guys for a "talented" arm that is on fire this season. Bummer: He's young, yes, but was high-round draft pick, which means scouts never thought that much of him. Again trade him in a singular deal for 2 prospects. Go to a team that needs him and demand 2 guys who our scouts feel ARE BIG LEAGUERS in the future and NOT STIFFS. Real prospects. Rob somebody. You say it's not easy to rob somebody? That's Hahn's job if he's selling players who can be of value to a contender NOW. Abreu: As much as I will cry about losing Jose (or get drunk after we deal him), since you all want him flipped, go ahead and trade him to the Dodgers for some of those names we always talk about. Try to grab 4 very very very good prospects (it's up to Hahn to not blow it; make them guys expected to be real major leaguers, not Jon Jay's). Not sure who needs him but go ahead and trade him for 3-4 outstanding prospects. Try to make one of them can't miss. The other 3 should be future major leaguers. If you can't get 4, get 3. Leury: Probably should keep him because does any team really believe in Leury? If they do, by all means, ship him for 2 very good prospects, NOT STIFFS and/or minor league fillers. Herrera: Trade him for cash and one minor league shortstop with moderate potential. McCann: Since we have Collins, trade him for our future right fielder. Get a guy who is fast and can hit. Also another prospect. Get two guys for McCann. Beef: Trade him for cash considerations and a moderate prospect who probably won't make it. Jay and Rondon: Trade them both for whatever you can get plus cash considerations. Separate deals. Trade Jay to somebody who needs a veteran who will play the role of a Blum for some contender. Get a prospect. Rondon to whoever needs him for a prospect. I apologize for not mentioning specific names of the guys we get in return. I'm not an expert on prospects in other organizations. What I'm saying is Colome, Abreu and Bummer all are of immediate value to contenders so make it hurt for teams to acquire them. WIN SOME TRADES. In conclusion: If we trade all these guys for prospects, our minor league system will be overflowing with bodies. There will be enough infielders and outfielders to fill out a three-deep depth chart for the future of all our positions. Get relievers and starters this offseason through free agency. I promise these feelings are mine and mine alone, in my baseball brain. If you deem them ridiculous, feel free to blast me but remember these are my true feelings as of 12:30 a.m., Sunday.

Did we not DFA Covey after that masterpiece? Geez.

We're destined to get Pederson. His name has appeared too many times on the this board and in media the last few years for Hahn to not get KW's man.

Why is this a day game? I'm assuming Oakland has a crowd of under 10,000 today. Correct? Thanks in advance. I got things to do and am outta here.

Is there any reason to keep Covey around? He was a first round draft pick nine years ago. Has never done anything. I don't see any possible upside. Isn't he just another guy who should be released after the game?

Shark and Ynoa were not good although Shark had a few decent starts. He was not solid IMO.

Reed got a hit and that deep fly ball to LC woulda been a home run at Guaranteed Rate Field. Right? It was on the warning track tonight. That's a HR in Chicago. So that excites me a lot more than Jon Jay for instance.

That's why I want Abreu to get paid over market value. Sox have wasted a lot of cash on bad players the last many years. The guys who actually can play a bit might as well take some of Jerry's haul.

I wasn't crazy about the lineup. Move up Eloy. Move down Jay.

Semien and Phegley, Bassitt and Ravelo for Jeff Samardzija and Ynoa. I'd say A's win that trade.

I've said before I never said I was intellectually sound. Trust me I am passionate about the Sox even if my intelligence could be questioned. Here's a trivia question that shows some Sox knowledge. What brother of a baseball Hall of Famer once played for the Sox?

Thanks. I sent him a personal message apologizing. He's seemingly a very good guy like u and everybody else. GO SOX!