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QUOTE (Harry Chappas @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 05:19 PM) Maybe he meant Lester Munson, both have Chicago roots The difference in today's generation v prior are over active parental oversight and information access. Everyone knows everything now a days and situations become over aggrandized. The information age has its pitfalls. This is the post of the year. Worded like Shakespeare. "over active parental oversight." That is such a cool way to say parents have coddled their babies for a couple generations now. You can blame it on the rare mass murders and kidnappings or whatever you want, but parents took away the kids' right to be a kid. No more playing baseball on street corners (you might get hit by a car, you know) or riding bikes with friends to hang out wherever their bikes took them (you might get kidnapped you know) to play whatever sport they felt like playing that day (throw a football, play whiffle ball or rubber ball with a wall as a backstop), play street hockey, go skating at the park in the winter. Nope, parents put uniforms on their kids at age 6 and organized everything lest their little babies get kidnapped or killed by some imagined threat. My original thread was misstated by me I guess. I just wondered why college athletes are expected to win and fans get all hot and bothered when they don't win (football, basketball) when their generation has been taught just competing is OK. How do we expect these kids to be "gamers" when all their lives they've been taught the result doesn't matter?

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:08 PM) Will he hear boos during the 05 reunion ceremonies? I can't believe it's already time for an 05 reunion. It actually makes me sad. I'd never have thought this team would turn to complete s*** with so few highlights since the glorious WS crown.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:52 PM) Haha! Check out Sale's reaction to the question about the team's offense.... Hilarious. It's a historically bad offense. So boring it is beyond belief.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) Abreu is a B. He's not getting as many pitches to drive and he's being forced to be more aggressive trying to carry the team on his back. But he's almost at .300, at least coming into today. B-, at worst. LaRoche C+ or B-. Cmon. LaRoche is a D like everybody not named Abreu and maybe Beckham C or C-.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:42 PM) People are not going to pay to watch this.................I know people on Fathers Day game that left after the 4th inning they were so bored. Frankly, who cares? Let's face it. The Sox are at the point like the Orioles were all those years when they fielded teams that had no chance and were out of it in May. The Sox are at that point. We cheer for a horrible baseball team. If the fans don't want to come, who cares? There's really no danger of the team moving to another city. So who cares if the Sox make any more money on concessions/parking/souvenirs? You'd have rocks in your head to pay to see this team play. Free tickets? That's a different story. it's still baseball.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 08:38 PM) Well, we'll never know because of their fear of being disloyal to Ventura...especially if this terrible style of play continues into next year. It will remain one of those unanswered questions if the baseball equivalent of Brad Stevens could have turned the season around. True. The time to fire him was that series where we lost all four to Minnie. Or even before that. He's a joke, but no more than the players. Right now, you'd have to give a D or F to LaRoche, Gillaspie, Lexi, Sanchez, Micah, Flowers, Soto, Melky, Abreu, Bonifacio. For the most part the pitchers have been OK.

Bring up Davidson now and see who really won the trade. Season is lost. Might as well as see if Davidson is Josh Fields or Robin Ventura.

Stop the silliness. Keep Sale, Abreu, Q, Rodon and our new No. 1 draft pick and trade EVERYBODY else ASAP.

LOL, the Hitless Blunders turn around Minnesota's season again. Firesale, please Mr. Hahn?

I forgot if I told you the update on my friend who cheats on his wife. He's the late 30s guy who was "f***ing" that 24 year old waitress from Hooters. Well he finally got sloppy and got caught by his wife. I never ever thought he would get caught. I guess it does prove the old adage that if you cheat you will get caught. He ended up getting some free tickets to a baseball game and gave them to his 22 year old mistress. She gave them to four people she knew. Well the 4 people went to the game and said "How did we get these tickets?" One of the people said, "Shelly's boyfriend, XX XX, got the tickets." One of the people said, "XX is he the guy who works at Sprint? My wife knows HIS WIFE." So this p**** goes home and tells his wife and she calls my friend's wife and says, "Your husband is cheating on you." She calls her husband who is in New Orleans on a weekend getaway with his mistress and says, "I know all about you cheating on me. Don't deny it." My friend's wife did not ask for a divorce. They are still together. They have 2 kids, 6 and 4. My question is: If you cheat is it inevitable you get caught? I never thought he'd get caught. He was taking girls on dates in the town he lives in and still never got caught til the baseball game.

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 04:24 AM) 3 straight games with 10 or more hits. Abreu with 4 to get back to .300. Eaton with 3 . Melky with 2 more. Soto with 2. 6 doubles . Still took 15 hits to get just 6 runs but baby steps in the right direction. The Sox 1st win at MN. this year. Good pitching and defense. Melky/Ramirez threw out a runner at home and Soto caught Buxton stealing. You touched on all the highlights and the weird-light. 15 hits and "only" six runs. QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 24, 2015 -> 04:37 AM) Just start Soto, who knows, maybe he's good enough to earn a starting role for '16. Jettison flowers and bring up Smith. Move Nieto to AAA. Get it done. No on Soto next year. Happy he is making contact, though. Nice contribution tonight. I find it impossible to believe Sox beat Minnie in Minnie. One win in the series isn't good but it's better than the usual sweep. GO SOX!

I was thinking about something the other day. The current generation of 20 somethings to young 30 somethings are members of the generation that could do no wrong as kids. When they played competitive sports it was OK to suck and OK to lose. These are the same people who quit jobs after a year or so and move on to another firm or profession when the jobs aren't fun or what they expected. We've been told the current generation is seeking easy street ASAP and can't understand work ethic like previous generations. My psychological question is why hasn't this moved over to sports? We expect a ton from our young athletes. College football and basketball players get ripped in the press and by fans when they don't perform well. Guys in big league baseball from the Participation Trophy Generation get ripped and are expected to produce lest they get reamed by media and fans. My question is ... why do we expect this age group to perform like the Pete Rose age group? Is this a factor in baseball hitters not being as good nowadays or young NBA lottery picks of the last 3-4 years for the most part sucking? Has this filtered to professional sports? I just wondered why fans and media expect so much from young players nowadays when they are from a totally different generation, one not raised to excel and compete as hard as past generations. Also, how can a 20-something fan who was raised that losing is OK and just participating is enough ... how can that fan demand so much from players and even boo players when they were raised that failure is very OK? Please respond if you understand my point.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 01:01 AM) Davidson hasn't panned out but that trade you do 100/100. i hate posts like that because it's not true. The trade sucks because Davidson sucks. At some point the evaluation has to be correct on a player you acquire before you say you'd do that trade 100 of 100 times. They shouldn't have done the trade period. Davidson sucks. QUOTE (ptatc @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 03:55 PM) IMO it's because they try to throw too hard too often. Since they are out there for a short period of time, they throw as hard as they can. It's effective in the short term but adversely effects them in the long term. I think you are right. I was hearing Wade Davis say as a reliever you let it all loose cause you don't need to save anything. You are in one inning and that's it, maybe 2 on a rare occasion.

I like his harsh tone. He's just a writer so it means nothing, but it's nice to read negative stuff about this unlikeable team. He praised the only guys worth praising. I thought it was funny he said A. Garcia is awful. These guys need to start showing something or they deserve articles like that one.

Sale and only Sale. Our team is very unlikeable.

Poor relief pitchers/closers. Almost all of em suck after a couple years. Even the Royals' closer now has been on the DL this year and some are calling for Davis to replace Holland. It's a no win job. You will suck after a couple years of greatness unless your name is Rivera.

LOL. I KNOW Fathom and Caulfield could hit Guerra. High home run. LOL.

They might as well call up Micah as Fathom says. Try to not completely waste the season. Also get rid of everybody who won't be here next year. Release Soto and Flowers and Bonifacio and Beckham. OK, you guys win. Release Danks too and Carroll. Trade Lexi for scraps and trade all the guys I've been clamoring to trade in other threads. Bring up guys from AAA if our prospects aren't ready. Let the old dogs in our organization earn their big league pensions at least.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 03:35 AM) 1 homer in last 7 road games Only the Sox can make me wish for winter, so we can have another do-over in April. I wish the Sox were a human video game where I could hit the restart button.

It must be humbling to be Scott Carroll. He's like Phil Humber after the perfect game. I know they make good money, but what's it like to be THAT ineffective a pitcher? I realize all of you believe Danks is just as bad, but I'd rather pick on Carroll cause I think Fathom and Caulfield could whack doubles off him right now.

Can you picture Torii Hunter counseling Buxton before this game? Torii: "Son, I know it's been tough for you, but you are about to have an incredible series, rookie!" Buxton: Thank you sir. But are you sure? Torii: You will find out, son. We are playing the Chicago White Sox. You are about to find out how bad a ballclub we're about to face. Get ready to have some f***ing FUN and welcome to the big leagues!!"

Sox have 10 hits and two walks and 2 runs?? How the hell is that possible (just tuned in)?

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Jun 22, 2015 -> 04:20 PM) I hate this thread so much every year. It's June 22 and there are 94 games left in the season. Do we really need a thread in which supposed White Sox fans are openly rooting for their team to lose? You point out that they are just 6.5 games back from getting the #1 pick. Well you know what? They are also just 6.5 games back in the wild card race. I would much rather root for that instead. If it were the end of August or beginning of September it would be one thing. One nice two week stretch of baseball gets them right back in the thick of things and I haven't given up hope yet. Reminder ... the White Sox are doormats of their own division. They STILL can't win division games. Maybe this upcoming sweep at the hands of Minnie will finally convince everybody the Sox are finished in 2015. This team blows, folks. Even on a day Melky gets five hits we win by one run. Even with a staff with FANTASTIC starting pitchers Sale, Q and Rodon and a serviceable 4 in Danks plus a fantastic closer we are 10ish below .500. This team blows. That said, I hate the draft and want all the wins the Sox can muster with this wretched team.

Royals are winning with a starting rotation of Blanton (stiff), Guthrie (stiff) Young (stiff), Volquez (journeyman stiff) and I can't recall the fifth guy right now.

Here come the White Sox to town. Just what the doctor ordered for Minnesota. Just like the last time. Minnie was nothing and beat Chicago 4 straight in Minnie then 2 of 3 at the Cell and took off from there.