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They also had the luxury of drafting highly in consecutive seasons and they already had a good farm and had been bad for a while by then. Same with the 2013 Astros. That rebuild started in 2009 and it took them until 2015 to win 85 games. Those teams had more to work with when they were horrible.

Great post.

I think thinking they can get to fewer than 85 losses by 2027 is delusional. That's at least a 30 win improvement from now. Just to get to 85 losses. Also anyone rebuilding realizes this is a 5-6 year job. They move Robert and Crochet and they need to fill literally every position on the 26 man roster. They have NOTHING right now. Even if they keep Robert/Crochet they still need to fill 8/9 of the lineup and 4/5 of a rotation, not to mention the entire bullpen.

Do you think they have any shot of competing between now and 2027? They're not going to supplement Robert/Crochet either.

Y'all are taking the wrong lesson from the failed 2016-17 rebuild. They are competitive faster trading Robert and Crochet than keeping them.

Yeah this season is so bad that you almost have to fire Getz and Grifol for optics.

This is exactly what the guy I'm arguing with is advocating. It's so unrealistic pie in the sky la la land stuff.

I know.

I was just arguing with someone on a different Sox board who said the Sox should be able to win 81 games in 2025. They must be smoking some good s%*# lol.

Iriarte has been struggling recently after his hot start. Hopefully he can right the ship soon.

Best we can hope for under JR is a rando one year division title and a quick playoff exit.

It would probably take 5/90 and I'm not comfortable based on half a season. As much as l am a fan of GC.

I had no idea about that. He hit like .220 in AA. Are we at the point where 2012 Dunn is acceptable for an entire lineup? Who cares if the guy rarely gets a hit as long as it's a 2B or HR. Yeah, hit .205 all ya want if it comes with 40 HR and a bunch of walks. I'm as advanced stat heavy as anyone but hitting under .230 offends my baseball sensibilities.

He had like 1/3 of a season in AA last year. Did not do well.

Why would Crochet extend this close to FA?

Ye olde platinum sombrero

I think Thorpe is a complete wild card. He's either going to be a solid 3 or cannon fodder.

Correct.

I'm glad people are coming around on the trade Robert front. It's really hard to see anything better than .500 in 2027, Robert's last year under contract.

You can add 1B to the Nobody list as Vaughn deserves a non-tender imo. I'd put Sheets there ahead of Vaughn.

Ding ding ding we have a winner

Moncada, Jimenez, Robert and Vaughn were more highly touted than any of those guys. Only Moncada and Robert turned out to be MLB regulars outside of the bouncy ball season in 2019.

Didn't Hahn just fail at that for 3 seasons?

That's exactly my point.