santo=dorf

I can imagine the Yanks trying to package worthless Pavano with A-Rod just to save some money. Perhaps they would send some cahs, but only if you take on some damaged goods like Pavano or Wright.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 8, 2006 -> 12:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Rowand ... he makes so much more money than any of his peers thus he in the clubhouse IS A CANCER What is so hard to understand about that? We don't need him or want him. His contract is a joke; I don't care who pays it. He is an aberration and would ruin the White Sox. ...and this is coming from a guy who thought trading Thome and getting Griffey and BARRY BONDS was a good idea.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 4, 2006 -> 10:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That and having not only a WS ring, but stringing together consecutive 90 win seasons. Those "win-now" philosophies have certain side effects. :rolly

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 03:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Public scorn vs. beheading. No comparrison. Damn those evil Christians and their scorn! Yes because Christians have NEVER killed anyone who did something against their religion and ALL Muslims behead EVERYONE who pisses on their religous beliefs.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 03:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh come on. All we hear about is how it is a small percentage. Even if it is only 2 or 3 percent, that is still a HUGE number. So then the other 97 or 98 percent is an even "HUGER" number. Why not make a broad generalization about something using those guys instead?

http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...c=47217&hl=

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 5, 2006 -> 09:48 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Something tells me we have seen this poster before... who were you before you got banned? I thought it was crazyman99. but now I'm sure it was crazyman26 Eating your crow about Orton and Grossman yet?

QUOTE(greg775 @ Oct 3, 2006 -> 02:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If Frank Thomas keeps this up all postseason, he goes into the Hall as a member of the A's. So sad he's still not a White Sox. I love Thome, but Frank is in the postseason; Jimmy is not. KW's biggest blunder ever.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Oct 4, 2006 -> 07:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Pat Burrell, career .950 OPS vs. LHP. Plays a below average left field. Definite candidate to be moved this offseason, maybe the Phillies could throw in one of the many talented minor league arms they have if we took on some of that hideous contract. Gio Gonzalez or Fabio?

Frank would not have signed an offer with the Sox if it was the same as what the A's were offering. He was complaining about guaranteed money last offseason. When the Sox closed the door on Thomas, he really only had one place to go.

Say, how did the Jason Johnson signing work out for the Indians last year? 2005 stats: 4.54 ERA, 1.34 WHIP and I seem to remember a lot of people dismissing the Comerica home ballpark factor because his overall numbers were still good. Home: 2.76 ERA, 1.16 WHIP Road: 6.66 ERA, 1.56 WHIP I remember posting this over and over claiming the guy would suck for the Indians because he couldn't bank on Comerica. There are players who can pitch so well at one ballpark, they can make their overall numbers look good. Ervin Santana appears to be one of these players. As for Soriano, two words: Contract. Year. Two more: National. League.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 02:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Yep. As far as those quoting Santana's road stats, I'd just like to point out that he's pitching in Anaheim stadium, which as far as I'm concerned is a hitters park. In fact I think its one of the bigger hitters parks in all of baseball (although those numbers may be down a bit because their offense was freaking terrible). This post makes no sense. You think Anaheim stadium is a hitter's park (disagree) but it doesn't explain why he is terrible on the road, and why it would make sense to acquire him when he would pitch in Anaheim maybe once next season if he was on our team. If a guy doesn't play well in the other 29 parks, I don't want him on our team.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Why are you so confident he couldn't turn it around? Just wondering. I'd never be against acquiring a good young arm like Ervin. I think there's a reason that Anaheim wouldn't give him up for Carl Crawford. Because frankly we don't have enough time to see if another one of our pitchers will "turn it around." We already have Garcia/Buehrle, Contreras and his health, Vazquez and his 6th inning, and now McCarthy will have to adjust to moving back into the rotation. I wouldn't give up a guy like Crede, who is coming off of year like 2006, for someone like Ervin Santana.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 12:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I'm sure he'd be fine pitching on the Southside. I'd surely take him. Why are you so confident he would be pitching well here? 2006 Away: 6-,6 5.95 ERA, 1.40 WHIP Career away: 9-11 6.46 ERA, 1.53 WHIP

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Oct 2, 2006 -> 12:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> What teams would be interested in Crede? I think the Angels could possibly be one and if they were willing to talk a deal that involved Figgins and Kendrick, I'd be all ears. KW would probably also ask about Ervin Santana. Santana sucks donkey balls away from LAAAAAAAAA.

How about this option: Jose Guillen? Maybe he's inclined to sign a 1 year deal somewhere to prove he's healthy, and I'm sure he wouldn't mind playing for one of his relatives.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 11:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Devern Hansack gets the BoSox a win over the O's in a rain-shortened 5-inning game. No hits, one walk. Does this qualify as the second no-hitter this year or not? No. They made a rule change back in 1991 (?) saying the game had to go at least 9 innings for it to be considered a no-no.

Request to unban crazyman99. When will Orton get his shot?

QUOTE(soxsr08 @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 01:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> wut do u think is the biggest hgh school rivalry in illinois? for me, without a doubt it is st. rita and mt. carmel. i dont think anything even come close to the intensity and excitement of that rivalry. no matter what the sport is, people fill the stands when those teams meet each other. even when people hear they are playing each other they always seem to at least consider going to watch them. btw, the football teams play in 2 weeks @ rita, anyone goin? Lazy students vs. their freshman english class homework assignments?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 30, 2006 -> 02:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> With Freddy Garcia, before you give a definative answer as to whether you want him traded or not just ask yourself on simple question. Would you be willing to give Freddy Garcia a 3 year ~$33M deal with a 4th year option/buyout RIGHT NOW. If yes then you obviously do not want him traded If no then you should want him traded. Who says the Sox can't let Garcia pitch next year and then trade him during the season? I'm not saying that's what they should do, but the last time the Sox traded a guy because they thought there wasn't going to be compensation, they ended up with Jon Adkins.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> His lowest OBP in the last 4 seasons was .345 in 2004, and considering the number of XBHs he gets and the fact that he does still steal bases, his OBP can be a little lower. The point of a leadoff hitter is to score runs. Getting on base is the key idea in scoring runs, yes, but you're going to score more from scoring position than from standing on 1B. There is a reason he's scored 100+ runs in each of the past 4 seasons, and Podsednik has only scored 100 runs one time in his career. Coming into this season his career OBP was .348 so while his lowest OBP over that span was .344 (according to Baseball reference,) he has generally been a .340-.350 type guy. I don't know why you randomly chose the 4 year period, but I imagine it has to do with him posting a .323 OBP back in 2002. I don't think Furcal is a bad player, but he's not worth the money he's getting (LA probably knows that, but they're not going to move him because of it) and I don't see why LA would move him AND eat money just for prospects if the guy is performing better than his career norms and is part of a team going to the playoffs. You think there are fans of another team saying "Hey, The White Sox have Ross Gload and Jim Thome. Perhaps they would trade Paul Konerko for a couple good prospects and send some money over with the big contract he has." ?

QUOTE(beck72 @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 05:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> He could have just as easily been on the DL for 1/2 the yr. Pitching in the NL where he could go 5 innings and face the weak #8 hitter and the pitcher also helped him. If he stuck around the AL he would have had a +5 ERA Considering his ERA is around 4.65 this year in the NL, it'd be likely around 6.00. But greg likes his pitchers with wins, like Mark Redman.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 08:33 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> And your reason for not wanting him is what? High OBP shortstop with speed and some power, defense is decent... the only downfall is his salary. But that is exactly why they will consider moving him. It jumps from 7M to 13M for 2007 and 2008. But the Dodgers next year will want pitching, and they already have Lugo in the wings for cheap. This just has Kenny-deal written all over it - prospects and an SP for Furcal and cash offset. Please show me any evidence of the Dodgers not being happy with Furcal's salary. Why did they give him so much last winer, and why would they move him if he is performing better than his career numbers? Aside from this season, Furcal's OBP isn't exactly "high." Lugo is not cheap and he is a free agent.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Byrnes isn't Eric Byrnes, career .322 obp is it? Weren't you the guy saying Michael Young can't hit away from Texas and his road obp is .333, so he should not be an option for KW as a lead-off man? I want Byrnes only for lefty pitchers. On the road, vs. LHP this season: .357/.432/.595 That's damn good.

QUOTE(beck72 @ Oct 1, 2006 -> 09:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> That would be ugly having any of those 3 guys leading off. That's something a team like Pittsburgh would do, not a playoff team. Mack's OBP against RHP: .384 Gload OBP against RHP: .361 Byrnes OP against LHP: .377 Oh wait, you care more about hit totals than OBP. Anyone else like my idea of Gload/Mack/Byrnes/Anderson platoons for CF and LF?