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QUOTE(Linnwood @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 04:49 PM) Seriously? Its true. He responds to a ton of them too.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 05:22 PM) Notice how CSN is making a big deal about the gun today of all days when it's almost always way off, funny how it would be such a big concern with today's starter for the Sox. Hawk has been pretty pissed at the gun readings the last few games I've watched.

Can Comcast please fix the f***ing radar gun. I'm sick of this bulls*** every time I get the Sox feed. That or if its the Sox gun, fix it. Whatever it takes, just get it done. QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 05:16 PM) Reyes has got some impressive control. He's going to throw that change-up on 3-2 pitches all night. He should have been up here a while ago. I think the Cards took it a little slow with him and they shouldn't send him down. They got guys that are worse. Apparently they are recalibrating the gun now.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 04:44 PM) Torii Hunter sure is a classy guy. He just appeared on Baseball Tonight's show discussing how much Clemens has owned him over his career. Nothing else. Forget that Liriano guy on the mound, or his team's resurgence. I guess your slamming him, but I love Torri Hunter's attitude. He's such a refreshing interview when you here him on the radio or on sports center. I liked his interview with Gomes too, where he he told Gomes to repeat that name and than made a scared reference to how he feels about Clemens. He's totally unselfish and would be one guy I'll always cheer for.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 02:09 PM) Ok DBAH0, bring it on. Italy gets to f*** up the Aussies. Can we say...Forza Italy

QUOTE(RibbieRubarb @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 01:54 PM) :headshake Another in the long line of reasons why I'm lookin to go. These types of posts and these types of posters are getting way to common here. Really, dude, settle down and think before you type. Don't worry, that crap won't ever be tolerated. He GAWN

Freddy is just not throwing as hard. Part of it is he feels he gets better movement/command with less velocity and I think part of it has to deal with him not being in as good of shape. Plus his arm has some mileage on it.

QUOTE(danman31 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) Wait, Woodson got hyped up and he's repeating? Ya, they were working on improving his secondardy pitches and wanted to do that with him in extended spring. The reason for this was that they felt it would make him better prepared for his move into the rotation.

Everything was merged into here. Don't make posts outside of this thread, the whole board doesn't need to be filled up with Ozzie discussion.

They have a few good arms in that rotation, between Moreno, Woodson, and Edwards. Couldn't tell you much about the other two.

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 11:33 AM) All I know about him is that he was drafted out of New Lenox here in Chicago area, hes very tall, totally nice guy. Met him a SoxFest with a guy who went to that same H.S. He grew up a SOX FAN. Will make for good press if hes successful. Don't hold your breath. My guess is he will be out of the organization very soon, unless he shows some semblance of a fastball, command and obviously his knuckle curve. Its too bad, he was on the fast track for a while and than totally blew up.

I forget which team, but he's supposed to be coming back up with Great Falls or Bristol. He had been rehabbing in extended spring training.

Cool stuff. Tracey is my boy.

Eddie Lewis, played great until he came out for Convey who also played solid in his limited action. Lewis should have been playing left mid all along, along with Beasley. The problem with Beasley is I'm convinced that Arena has him thinking way too much out there. Beasley is the type of guy that needs to take his ball and use his speed and athletism to create something. He did that and we had a goal. He also had a goal that was taken away against Italy (it was the right call). Onyewu - I thought he was a bit raw this world cup, but he's going to be a strong player for the US. He's physically imposing and will be a true weapon when we bring him up on corners and set plays. He also has the ability to throw the long throw in's to try and get goals. Plus I think he uses his body well as a defender. He'll be a major factor in our defense next cup. Reyna played hard but was bad this cup, Donovan was awful sans the Italy game (where everyone really stepped up). He needs to work on finishing but more importantly he needs to play agressive. The thing is, we had very few guys that played agressive and I truly believe thats because we had Arena's ultra conservative approach out there which left a lot of our guys standing still. Its too bad for McBride who played hard and has played his last world cup. Keller was overhyped and played like piss in this cup. He was supposed to be one of the better goalies with his foot and turned into one of the worse. In the Italy game he failed to go long and towards the sidelines (giving the Italians countless of opportunities at a time where we just wanted to run the clock out and get the tie). Overall it was a dissapointing world cup, but we are a better team that showed up and they played hard the final 30 minutes. Sure I'd have liked more but they played one of there best international matches against Italy (ever) and should be getting a new coach (hopefully a more creative one).

This helped me get through the world cup game. US was down 1-0 and I saw the breaking news update and fell off the couch laughing.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 08:01 AM) Not to be a whiner or a conspiracist. But doesnt it seem like in the last 2 games especially, the refs have taken a harder line on the US team. Could it be our standing politically in the world? Because we are at war? The thing that pisses me off is that we are one of the cleanest teams (in terms of play) in the entire world cup. We rarely foul and don't at all play a dirty game that would warrant all these bulls*** calls.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 03:08 AM) You make arguments for either, because they're both fantastic defensive CF's in their own right. For example Anderson would have a better arm, but Rowand probaby has the better range even if occasionally there is a question over his reads of the ball straight off the bat. Gotta disagree here. Anderson has superior range. He gets to some balls that I dont' think anyone in the game gets to (aside from Jones/Hunter who are the two best in the biz).

Its over, not in 2 weeks, not ever. Blogspot.com and all responses to any type of this crap will result in a suspension (not just Hangar, but anyone else that eggs him on or anything like that).

QUOTE(Hangar18 @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 08:47 AM) Wasnt that the kettle calling the pot black? He called out his paper and said they have to treat everyone FAIRLY. Fairly? heh heh. This is the same paper that did a fullpage article on Darren Baker. No, if you read, he is mad that his paper is seemingly taking the SOX side on this and has censored him in the past. Something a paper should NEVER EVER do. Who cares. Take it somewhere else. I said the media stuff is done here, you want it, blogspot.com and be done with it. The same goes for anyone responding to your posts with that stuff (either pro or con). Thats that, the line has been laid, if anyone wants to try me out, you'll be suspended or banned.

I just want to add a tidbit about his velocity. He was clocked as high as 98 THIS YEAR and in a workout a week before the draft (w/the reds) he was clocked at 95. He was hoping to be selected between the 2nd and 4th rounds. I love the idea of a power throwing guy to go along with Long. These guys could make a quick impact for the Sox (in 1-2 years, starting as soon as next year) in an area we really lack (the pen).

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 10:27 PM) I disagree but whatever. To be totally honest I was never real high on his as a prospect, as a matter of fact I really didn't see him as much until he actually got here and I got a chance to see him play everyday, he's totally grown on me. I am about as impartial as it comes concerning Sox players and I gotta say the only problem I've had with his defense is his missing cutoff man, other than that he's been pretty remarkable out there. I'm the same way. I had seen him but I had major doubts about him, especially offensively. I also figured there was no way he'd be the type of defensive outfielder he's turned into this quickly. Last I saw him he flashed everything you wanted (defensively) but he wasn't exactly consistent. He would get good jumps one game, than struggle the next game and so on. However, I figured he'd have trouble adjusting to one of the toughest places to play CF in the bigs, but he's been amazing out there. Now if he can figure out how to hit we'd be set for a long time. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 10:29 PM) How can you make that claim? Watch the replay of even the face breaker catch he made earlier this year against the Mets, he had a TERRIBLE read on that ball. Same goes for the catches he made in NY that got him on the map last year. Rowand was a very good fielder because he caught it if he got to it, but his terrible reads and not great speed made catches Anderson makes look easy very hard for Crash. Couldn't disagree more on that. If there was any knock it was that Rowand played a deep CF and that caused him to not get to the ocassional shallow hit ball. QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 21, 2006 -> 10:37 PM) He catches everything he gets to, has decent speed and does well to turn on the jets once he has a read, has a very good arm, and is smart enough to know where and when to throw the ball. Those qualities make you a well above average center fielder in my book, however he has 2 weaknesses, which are the short ball and his initial read on the ball (I don't consider his speed a "weakness", it's just BA has very good speed so he's faster). Rowand is a very good CF on defense, however Brian is a great one with a lot more God given talent, that's all. (And I'll drop the "bad reads" part of this, since that argument is impossible for either of us to win). Rowands arm was s*** last year. He used to have a pretty good arm, but it went away (maybe from his shoulder injury). It should be noted that accuracy is well more important than arm strength (unless you have a total noodle). I also think Vladdy is s*** out in the field and his arm is s*** too (misses cutoff men left and right and throws 1 in 100 on target; sure its a cannon, but it don't mean jack if you can't hit your target). QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jun 22, 2006 -> 12:08 AM) I believe when he was drafted, he was listed as a potential 5 tool player (Anderson). I might be wrong Jas, maybe you can elaborate or if you could remember. I assume you mean drafted, but yes, he would be your 5 tool guy. Of course I have long had major doubts as to whether he'd hit for enough of an avg. But the power, arm and speed are all there and damn can he play some defense. I still think the best case scenario is Torri Hunter. I can't see BA being any better of a hitter than that (maybe he could consistently hit in the .270 to low .280 range, but I would be shocked if it was ever any higher than that). At least without him making drastic changes to his swing and approach.

Not a tough choice BA is the better defensive outfielder, but I'd rather have Aaron Rowand if we are talking about "this year". Long term I'll take my chances with BA, especially since he's cheap and we'll have his rights for a while (unless we trade him).

Thank YAS too, he came up with the good idea about whoevers interested starting up a blog and that we could just link it to Soxtalk. I simply posted this idea (since I got the access to do the whole front page linking thingy). Oh, but the blogspot.com shoutout was all me

Anyone wanting to talk about the media watch can create a seperate blog (over on blogspot) and I'll throw up a link on the front page of Soxtalk for anyone wanting to check it out. I have stayed far away from it, but I'm absolutely sick of it taking up half of the g*d damn baseball discussion around these parts. So consider that my warning...all media watch threads closed and will be closed if they are made. www.blogspot.com Create the blog, PM me the link, and I'll put it up on Soxtalk so anyone interested can go there (and post comments to the daily blog talking about the media watch).

Two of my horses are playing tomorrow and Italy (one of my horses) could really help my main horse out (US) by picking up a win. Of course US still needs to take care of things themselves. My 3rd horse (the Doitch, ie Dutch) will be moving on and ready and willing to beat up on the Portugese.