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QUOTE(fathom @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 05:07 PM) Maybe Pinella should have spent less time saying Uribe has an odd fielding style, and more time teaching butchers like Lugo and B.J. Upton how to field. It is an odd fielding style. Pinella hasn't been bad. He's better than the other idiots. I really don't care though, I've learned to zone it out and all I do is watch the game. I'm focused on the Sox. Now Scotty, be smart on the paths. Washburn is incredibly tough to steal off of.

Washburn's pitching pretty solid. I wnat the Sox to get to him this inning and start beating him up.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 05:04 PM) I agree, but he went about that play very nonchalantly. He always has that odd fielding style. I've just learned to live with it cause thus far he seems to catch almost everything. Just my 2 cents though.

QUOTE(WSFAN35 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 05:03 PM) i'm so sick of all this whining and crying about how their not giving it their all and blah blah blah. you think these guys don't want to win? Exactly...these guys are busting there butts. Errors happen and the Sox have been tremendous this season defensively and they'll do the same in the postseason. Sure they've had some errors, but they've also made some tremendous plays this post-season (both offensively and defensively). I'll say this, Cora's mistake was boneheaded, but it was an agressive mistake. Had they made an agressive mistake last night (ie Uribe going to 2nd and getting gunned down rather than staying on 1st after that play by Kennedy) and we'd have a better shot. The Sox play agressive and sometimes that will bite you in the ass, most of the time, it will put an extended amount of pressure on the opposing teams defense and pitching and lead to more offense and more errors. The Angels use the same concept. By the way, I'm not defending Cora cause it was a totally retarded call with no one out. With 1 out, I don't have a problem with it to be honest.

Beautiful...double play inning over. Also, lets not forget all the great plays Uribe's made (post-season included). Heck he made a stellar one in the 1st inning on Vladdy.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan99 @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 05:00 PM) How many errors can this team make in this series? What the f*** Angels (another good team) have also made quite a few in this series.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) THAT play will cost us game two. Book it. Basically put it this way, we got a gift run, and than gave it back to them because we screwed up a guaranteed run. Uribe just throws one away with Molina running (Jose). Lets pick him up.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 04:59 PM) THAT play will cost us game two. Book it. We will overcome

QUOTE(CYGarland @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 04:58 PM) And Rowand was laboring on his way to home :headshake He was totally gassed, but more imoprtantly he had just dove and had to get back up and get going again. Just a bonehead call. That said, anything less than what Quinlan did (which was spectacular) and he's safe. You just don't do that with no one out.

What the hell was Joey Cora thinking. That said, it took a perfect play by Quinlan to get the out, but you take zero f***ing chances on a thing like that. We had a runner on 3rd and nobody out. Awesome play by Quinlan, he slid, got up and made a strong throw and Jose somehow got the tag in. That was a very close play, some replays I thought he was safe, others I thought he was out. This whole series (all the guys lost on the bases) reminds me of how the Sox played down in Anaheim earlier this year when they had a few guys cut down at the plate and at 2nd (all on really really close calls).

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I'm gonna close this thread.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 04:21 PM) Yeah. This is the first time this has ever happened! They should be played on alternate days so that when both series go 7 games the LCS' take 2 weeks I've long said that Fox is dumb and that they should have one game start at 7 eastern and another start at like 8:30 eastern. At least than people can catch both games and if both games go to the wire you can watch the end of the 1st one and than the 2nd one (for the generic fans) and than the diehards can watch there teams play.

Is Hideki Matsui a free agent. I heard on the radio that he was, but wasn't sure. If he is, I think he'd make an oustanding DH. He's a left handed bat whose a clutch hitter. I'd give him a 2 or 3 yr deal worth 18 mill (don't know if that would be enough or not). Plus he could play all 3 outfield positions in a pinch. I'd hope that the Iguchi factor could help as well.

He's a good owner. Maybe not a great one, but he's not near as bad as some people would lead you to believe. In fact I like the fact that he lets the baseball people make the baseball decisions.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 04:14 PM) That's actually what he did in West Lafayette. Iowa had less than 50 rushing yards at the half. -- Young finished with like 160. I've been impressed with Young. I think he's only a sophmore and aside from the OSU game he's been good. He's definately gonna have to continue to develop if Iowa wants to turn themselves into a national championship contender next season (With Tate and Young back). Plus, Iowa can stay in this big ten race if they can pull out some big wins down the stretch. That said I'd be shocked if Iowa won out, but they do have the talent to do so.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Oct 12, 2005 -> 03:59 PM) OK, I TIVO'd the replay of the PU/Iowa game last night, and I just watched most of it again. -- I was probably a little harsh. On each of Purdue's 3-and-outs somebody on the D-line made a good play that lead dierectly to the short drive. -- I would just like to see some more consistency, and continued improvement out of that bunch. I agree, but they did have a couple huge huge losses from last season on the line. I'm just hoping that the team continues to improve, which has been the case during Ferentz' tenure thus far. They definately have a young front and I was wrong early in the season when I thought there linebacking core (which is darn good) would help the defensive front's adjustment. I think they'll bury IU this weekend and yes, they will cover. Although I think on the most part If I were a gambler I would take the underdog whenever a lot of points are involved cause Ferentz isn't one to run up the score. Once he's up by 3 td's he does his best to start running the heck out of the ball. So sometimes Iowa can totally dominate but a team can get a late score and make it close on the scoreboard (well relatively close).

At this point i think you guys need to just agree to disagree.

QUOTE(GoRowand33 @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 07:20 PM) He pitched a helluva game tonight Lets regroup an get them tomorrow

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 08:05 PM) Today was just ugly and there is no way getting around it, our guys just have to forget about this one and go get them tomorrow. Exactly. All I'm saying is that the club didn't execute. That happens every once in a while and its tough. I'm just ready for tomorrow. Its another day and the Sox have the pitching staff that can go on a serious run in the post-season.

QUOTE(JoeBatterz @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 08:02 PM) I love the comment about Dye. It is like in little league when you could not hit a guy and you would try to lay down a bunt just to get some contact and maybe get lucky. Say what you want about Dye...he gets that bunt down and its a hit. The Sox weren't getting the job done and Jermaine tried to do something. He gets that bunt remotedly down and they had a leadoff runner with Paulie up. It didn't happen, big deal. The problem was obviously the amount of outs the club gave away, but at the same time, stuff happens and the Sox lost.

QUOTE(Pauly8509CWS @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 07:25 PM) I agree to a certain extent. I disagreed with Scotty and Arow bunting in those situations. We had enough trouble hitting, we didnt need to give up anymore outs. I think thats when you have to bunt (when you have trouble hitting). I kind of disagreed doing it with Rowand, but i had no problem with Scotty doing it. I just don't get why Scotty wasn't gonna try a drag bunt down the 1st base line.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 07:55 PM) Interesting, I tend to agree with you on pretty much all accounts, however I disagree that the Red Sox were even close to the worst team to make the playoffs this year or ever as you seem to say. That would go to the Padres or Yankees. I should say...I have a heavy bias towards pitching. In October it gets cold and offense seems to shrivel up and die. Usually a team that can play some defense, scrounge up a couple runs on offense, and pitch the ball can do really well. Last season the BoSox had some bats, but they also had two of the best of all time on the mound (Schilling and Pedro) and a really good closer (Foulke). Basically put I rated all my teams on pitching and the BoSox were the one team without an ace and while Timlin and that kid (looked damn good to me) are solid, that is everything the BoSox had pitching wise. Clement had been horrid the 2nd half, Wakefield is solid (nothing special though) and the Sox hit him well, Wells is eh (although he'd been good down the stretch) and Schilling is just a shadow of his old self. I'm harsh on them, but I think the Yanks had a better pitching staff and thats why I gave them the nod up in the AL. To be honest I thought both were pretty bad teams and I really didn't think either of them had a shot (but in a 5 game series anything is possible). But thats me and like I say, I have an extreme bias towards pitching.

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 12:21 PM) I can finally leave this damned sinking ship behind!!! I got myself a big raise and a move back onto the trading floor. Plus the company I work for is in a whole world of s*** for having a CEO setting up shell companies to funnel money to himself. Now they might be restating earnings all of the way back to 1998. WHAT A WEEK FOR ME f***ING AWESOME MIKE. I know you've been looking hard and what great timing for the new job (with the child coming) and all. Congratulations...a beer on me next time I see ya

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 11, 2005 -> 07:45 PM) Jason, you don't think the Angels have the talent to be here? I think once again, the Championship series' have the two best teams in there respective leagues facing off. No? I think they are the two best teams are here. I don't think the two most talented ones are. Remember, this is the same person who thinks Boston is one of the worse teams to make the playoffs in a long time (and I feel the same about San Diego, Atlanta and New York). The 4 teams left are the 4 best TEAMS (key word) in the game and its gonna be a dog fight for everyone involved. However, no one is going to tell me that the Angels are the most talented team out there. Without Colon they have a mediocre rotation, they have a weak lineup aside from Anderson and Vladdy and they have a strong back-end of the pen, but a very hittable mid to front end of the pen (if thats such a word). Sox have a great starting pitching staff (especially with Jose looking like an ace) and a very solid all around pen (not quite as good as the Angels back end, but the Sox pen is much deeper). Houston has the sickest pitching staff (ace wise) I've seen since the glory Braves rotation, a hell of a closer, and worthless lineup. St. Louis (much like the Sox) have a very strong pitching staff (with 1 new ace in Carpenter) and than Mulder, Morris (two very solid good pitchers) and a solid pen (not as good as the Sox) but Izzy is a better closer (simply his experience, etc). Cards have the best lineup however. Well thats my evaluation. When it comes to Boston...worse pitching staff to ever make the post-season (imo). Yankees staff was horrid too, but they did have a good pen (well at least Gordon/Rivera were good) while BOston had horrid starters and a horrid pen (imo). Braves starting was meh (Huddy and Smoltz are good, but the rest is mediocre and there pen is horrid) plus too many young players this time around. Padres were banged up...lousy offense, good pen, decent staff (with Peavy injured, they lacked an ace). Thats the way I see all the teams involved.