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Did you see what Hinrich did for the Bulls last year. He's a premium defender, a good shooter in a spot-up roll and as a starter is very good. Hinrich was hurt last year and coming off the bench because the Bulls had the #1 pick and in the playoffs Hinrich played a ton of key minutes. And you are comparing one seasons worth of stats. Career stats would differ, big time, and take a poll around the league and everyone will be telling you Hinrich is better. There is a reason he was invited to the USA Basketball Trials for the Olympics a couple years back and was one of the final cuts.

QUOTE (dbaho @ Jul 4, 2009 -> 09:12 AM) Lemme ask this question to Bulls fans.... Would you rather AI or Nate Robinson on a 1 year deal? Neither. Oh and Hinrich is so much better than Blake.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ May 1, 2009 -> 03:23 PM) They have something similar at the CN Tower in Toronto. It is incredible, and I will be going to do it as soon as it is open. Yep, it was creepy stepping onto it at the CN Tower but totally worth it.

Hillarious since I constantly ripped all the slobbering people did over Beane.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 10:33 PM) Deng is unmoveable right now in my opinion with his contract, similar situation to what the Hawks have with Brian Campbell (although he might be a bit more realistic to move). Trading Hinrich would be a killer for this year because the backcourt is thin enough, but I think they might deal him anyways for the sake of the summer of 2010. Evidently without Deng the Bulls will be under the cap even if they have Hinrich and Deng under contract. They would just have to renounce the rights to Salmons and Tyrus. The more I think about this the more I think Hollinger is right. The Bulls now have 4 guys who are pretty damn solid that can play the 1 through 3 spots (Hinrich/Rose/Salmons at the 1 and 2), Deng/Salmons at the 3. You still have Brad Miller, etc down low. If Deng comes back and can produce your in good shape. Bulls will bring in a veteran to a 1 yr deal that can be insurance in case any of our guards/wings goes down. Basically put, our glut is over.

Based upon what I've heard, I'm not too sure that he's going to sign. Would suck because he's got a big time left handed arm.

QUOTE (whitesoxfan101 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:49 PM) I'm glad Ben is gone. I firmly believe you can't win a championship with him in your starting lineup, and the Bulls can find much better use of 11 million dollars a year for the next 5 years than Ben Gordon. I know he's a polarizing figure, and I am biased, but good riddance. Have fun in Detroit playing for a team who is going to be stuck in "basketball hell" for a while (playoff team who isn't going any further than that.) Losing Ben will hurt in 2009-2010, but it is for the best in the long run IMO. If I'm the Bulls I think long and hard about finding a way to move Deng and Hinrich for expirings over the next year and making a major push at landing both Bosh and Wade. Or trade for Bosh early and than find enough room to go after Wade.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 06:43 PM) Today is his first full day off in a while. He came in as a sub for the 16 inning game yesterday. Manager probably wanted to give him an off day, but ended up catching 7 innings. As for the Hudson talk, he sure seems like the kind of prospect Kenny would trade at the deadline. The team is playing well, they are in the race and the rotation has a lot of young guys. Allen would probably make more sense to trade, but Hudson has to have a good amount of value right now. Miguel Gonzalez hit his 2nd HR tonight. He is raking in the Appy League. Kenny watched every minute of the Hudson start that I saw in spring training and him and Buddy looked quite pleased with what they saw. I don't think they will just be giving up Huddy.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 06:15 PM) Hudson and Flowers have separated themselves from the rest of the pitchers/position players regarding being our top prospects. Jordan Danks is still very close. He's such an elite athlete, however, Flowers is really climbing up the boards quickly. Right now I'd probably have him as the 3rd best catching prospect in the minors. Posey being #1 and the Yanks Masher #2 (who might not stick at C), with Flowers at 3.

Gordon made them solid but he didn't put him over the top. Losing him forces the Bulls to be serious at getting a start next to DRose. The question is if they'll be able to do that. Hopefully they can cause without Ben the playoffs will be tough (unless other guys make big steps forward). That said the Bulls might be worse off the next year or two but better off down the road. Gordon is a f***ing great scorer though with a great attitude who got better each and every season. I say good luck Ben Gordon and thanks for helping Chicago get back to mediocrity (cause it was a lot better than that s*** of the late 90's early 2000's)!!!!

Sounding like BG is going to be a Piston.

QUOTE (Cali @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 11:31 AM) I'm watching MLB Networks Classic Seasons for 1993 (and thankfully they didn't just ignore the Sox) and at one point Rick Peterson is talking and under his name it says "White Sox Minor League Coach" I seriously don't ever remember hearing he was hired in our system. Is it true? Haha If so, where in the system is he coaching? I assume it is an old video and that he was once one of our minor league pitching coaches.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 11:42 AM) Southsider, I would trade JD for Matt Cain straight up. Not gonna happen but what the heck. May even throw in a AA prospect for SF. Pitcher that is. They can have Omogrosso (AAA). A deal where the Sox got Cain would be huge. They would have to give up a whole lot more than Dye though. My guess is it would have to be a 3 team deal where the sox gave up some prospects to help the Giants get another piece they'd want. The Sox would than have to swing a deal for a good OF bat.

Couldn't the Hawks stick Huet in the minors if they really needed to?

So is Hossa in fact a Hawk?

QUOTE (rangercal @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:27 AM) that still has nothing to do with the writing on the wall for 3 weeks. Just wondering if 101 had inside info. The Bulls are going to try to resign Gordon. The problem is they haven't been able to find a taker on Hinrich or at least not at the value the Bulls want (as they really value Kirk, but want Gordons offense without taking on luxury tax or ruining there cap-room for 2010. Ben Gordon sign and trade with the Blazers is a possibility if Hinrich doesnt' go to the Blazers.

QUOTE (chisoxfan09 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 10:00 AM) Wow with Vitters and Cashman it looks like the Flubbies are finally doing something right with the farm. Doh!! They are both a long ways away and the Cubs system is still considered one of the worst in baseball.

The only way the Sox make a move like this is if they are buying someone else or getting something that helps them now and in the future.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jul 1, 2009 -> 09:16 AM) Don't forget some of the other, lower round guys. For example, if he ever comes back healthy, there's this Danks kid who was drafted in round 7 who looks pretty good. Dex Carter and Hudson have some potential as well. Either way Beckham is a f***ing stud. I long said if this team was going to compete it would be because the young players and right now it is the young players that have infused a new mix to the club. Plus Danks and Floyd have been freaking ridiculous.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 09:35 PM) The one thing the Sox don't have right now is a franchise damning contract. In this economy, one bad deal can really hamper the plans of the team. Rios in his later years is getting paid like a franchise player, yet over the last two years has put up numbers similar to a decent 6 hole hitter. Rios totally fits what the Sox I'm sure are looking for, but the deal is just awful. His Contract is a deal breaker. Ethier fits the bill but again the only way the Dodgers give him up is if they can get Cliff LEe or that sort of pitcher. Only way we get in is if the 3rd team prefers prospects and the Dodgers don't have the right combination of prospects to get the deal done and the Sox do.

I still continue to say Gavin Floyd is the best starter on the team. The guy is stellar and his ability to pitch deep into games is why he's going to win 20 games at least once, if not more times, in his career. Oh and for those that called me a moron for pointing out Gavin Floyd I say whose the moron now!!!!

If the Sox could get in a 3 way deal they might be able to get Andre Ethier in a deal that gives the Dodgers and additional starter. The key would be having the right package of youngsters to offer the team giving up the starter. I'm higher on Ethier than most but out of all the Dodgers outfielders he's the one they'd be most willing to move to bolster there rotation and with Manny coming back the Dodgers wouldn't mind upgrading there rotation with Ethier all while opening up a spot for Pierre to continue to play (Juan Pierre has been f***ing ridiculous this year). I really like Ethier too.

Rios is a solid player but he's never put up ridiculous numbers and his contract is pretty significant in this economy. The only way I'd do this move is if the Sox felt they had a contract that was a hinderance to them. We can't throw Paulie out there, although I would take Rios over Konerko because of Rios ability to play good defense in the OF, although Konerko is the better hitter. However, the Sox could probably send Linebrink and some change for Rios. The thing is, the Sox would be taking quite the chance, especially since money is coming off the books and you could probably do a lot better than Rios. However, Rios has tools and should see his power numbers improve by moving to the Cell. I'd be all over the 2006/2007 Rios. So bottom line, I just don't see where this deal makes financial sense to the Sox.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 05:43 AM) +1 Tony. There isn't a single word of this post that I don't agree with. Holliday might fit into the core though, if the Sox think they can resign him. One of the positions the Sox will have to fill is the corner OF spot. Danks is damn good prospect but not a sure thing and he'll get handed one of the OF spots, Quentin will be in the other, and than there is the open spot when Dye moves to the DH spot. The only thing is we'd probably be targetting a left handed hitting corner outfielder to replace Thome's lefty bat in the lineup.

QUOTE (BearSox @ Jun 29, 2009 -> 08:24 PM) He can't be, considering his teammate in AA and fellow 07 draft class pick Bumgarner was born in 89 and is about 8 months older than Alderson.. I thought Alderson was the younger of the too but that was off the top of my head. I know those two are the two youngest in AA or were about 3 weeks ago with Viciedo being the 3rd youngest.