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Lopez was a Free Agent. Kudos to the Braves for starting him. They also made a nifty trade for Sale: Vaughn Grissom has a Lopez-level OPS this season. The team that gets Kopech will start him next season. T

Isn't that what we basically got in Givens? I realize that Bummer's FIP was a run < than his ERA, but he was also walking 5+/9. I find it hard to believe that teams were ponying up much for 5+ walks in a pennant race. I get offseason, where you have an entire Spring to work with him. In the end, we got several players who had a chance to be decent plus a prospect. The prospect appears to be decent, while the players not so much. Soroka might even be figuring it out (4 decent outings in a row) although he still has a lot to prove. I'd either let him start a couple of games, or use him in more pressure situations. He does the Sox no good if they can't move him. All in all, I can't complain about the Bummer trade.

Let’s see him do that in high leverage situations. Or put him back in the rotation and let him pitch six good ones a few times before July 31. time is running short on some of these guys whose only value is to be peddled next month.

How about taking a page from the Dodgers playbook and batting Robert at leadoff. Give the team's best hitter the most at bats. Can't hurt.

Deal.

Of all the players to pinch hit, Pedro picks Mendick. Maybe he thinks a 2B has to PH for a 2b.

After their first 3, the Dodgers lineup is less than Daunting. Of course, they're missing 2 of their big guns this series.

Oh they'll try to throw Pages, Outman and Luz in there with a couple of good prospects and a couple of lower guys. Not what the Sox are looking for (I hope).

Skepticism is fine, but there was never a hard and fast rule that he had some specific innings limit. That was invented. Also fairy dust are these ideas that going to the bullpen can save his arm. It would probably make things riskier as you get really amped up to throw as hard as you can when pitching in relief. i’ve wanted him to start since the day that drafted him. I certainly didn’t know he would be a good starter. But the reward is so much greater than the downside that it’s worth the risk.

That’s good for this team and, this season, not bad on a lot of teams.

What's the point of Clevinger at all? No other team wants him: that was obvious last year at this time when he was having a good year and couldn't be moved. And then no one signed him.

Well they could just cut him right now then. While that would $15 mill less than can spend for each of the next 3 years, what are they going to spend it on anyway? I would think players that they can peddle at midseason for prospects. Well, if you're going to reduce your prospect haul from Robert/Crochet by moving his contract, you aren't really gaining anything. Unless you think that they can sign players with the intent on winning in the next 2 years.

Per ESPN's Cy Young rankings, Crochet (AL #2) would be the Dodgers #1 and Fedde (AL #5) the Dodgers #2. Glasnow, (NL #4) would be pushed back to Dodgers #3. Showcase, boys. Showcase.

What about the context, though? Back then, we were trying to win, and could have put those free agent $$ anytime soon. Today, unless I'm missing something, the Sox won't be investing in FAs anytime soon.

Well, the proposal doesn't seem that awful to me.

He has a lot of arm talent; scouts might see something they can fix. Teams might envision him as a starter for next season. Someone's top 10-15. Heck last year we got Dodgers #10 plus Leasure for Kelly and Lynn,

Big game tonight. Crochet against a good hitting team and Crochet against specifically the Dodgers. I don't know if the Dodgers lineup with the Sox prospect-wise (although I'm sure we could make something work) but they could really minimize the Crochet risk as they don't need him to help win a division: they just need him for the postseason. Also I have this inkling that, for better or probably worse, Getz might try to stuff Benintendi into one of these trades, and they could obviously make that happen.

Well, he's a heck of a lot better than Hostetler, who was absolutely atrocious. But whether he's particularly good remains to be seen. He punted way too much in 2019 and 2020 so that he could sign 3 high school pitchers, all 3 of whom are absolute busts. Heck, he punted 60% of the 2020 draft so that they could sign Jared Kelley. He's cut down on the punting and on the high school pitching. Fortunately, Shultz looks like a big winner.

Law concurs in your evaluation. Pushed him out of his June top 50.

That's a big negatory. Cease only yielded 1 bottom half top 100, so I guess that's what we can expect. But I just don't care for those players. I don't really care about top 100 either, given that we aren't going to get an elite prospect anyway, It's asking a lot, but I'd like the Sox to be on top of some of these farm systems and find the players who will be top 100 this time next year. The other team will be more amenable, will give up more of them, and they will have a "who could have known" excuse ready-made, which they will hopefully need.

Anderson never had that level of OBP. it's not that unusual for a player to have a few good years and then head south. But when you had 2 glaring holes even when winning (2b and RF) and no depth should something bad happen, it gets magnified.

And this org. certainly needs some impact. Can't blame him for Burger, Vaughn, etc. Just none of those pitchers with the first pick.

Love Big George's swing. Smooth. 17 hits, but 15 singles for the Dash.

Yes, but Crochet has pitched like an ace all season; and the only season in which he's started. Vaughn has hit like a stud for most of 1 month, among many months he's hit. And then there's the risk (both injury and regression): substantial risk in holding Crochet; minimal risk in holding Vaughn (who has little value right now anyway because he's only been good for a month.).

I certainly wouldn't trade Vaughn. He pisses me off a lot, but he's having a great June; maybe he's figured it out. Maybe he hasn't, but all he'll return is some team's 10-15 prospect. A lot more to lose than to gain. Obviously trade Pham and Dejong for whatever you can get. Pham, a filler signee, is better than the guys they signed for RF when they were trying in 2020-2023. I like Dejong; he handles his affairs at SS and has some pop. I'd sign him to placehold next year as we wait for the young guys. Robert, if traded, will be for $.50 on the dollar. Get him healthy, hope he has good first half of 2025. Still has 2.5 years of control at that point, which I believe was the Soto timeline when the Nats traded him. They'll never get full value for Crochet as a 30 starts/year ace with 2.5 years of control. But they might get 75% of that. If they can, I think that they have to try to trade him. It's just too risky to hold him. That leaves Fedde who should return his full value, if not more.