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QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ May 18, 2014 -> 08:16 PM) It would be awesome if Danks had TJ surgery as that's the elbow. Danks had a full capsule tear -- shoulder injury. You know the other guy that had that? Johan Santana. Danks is done in MLB he'll probably retire when his contract is over. There is no way the Sox could have seen the shoulder problem so I don't blame them for the contract. Hey Dick Allen, how's your boy Danks doing with that 88 mph heater today? Remember that cubs gsme when their AAAA lineup couldn't hit the exact same stuff? Turns out it was smoke and mirrors. Go figure. Gotta love Webb getting to be the fall guy too, god forbid we would over work our non pre-arb relievers. And Jose needs an MRI, yea it was clearly a planned DH trip. "It's not the type of thing that gets worse playing on it" said Jose and the Sox. Yea, that wasn't true. Yes people forget that there is still a world of difference between the success rate of the two surgeries (elbow and shoulder). The list of those who have successfully recovered from shoulder surgery is a short one.3

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2014 -> 01:25 AM) So does everyone else here agree that we need to give up on Johnson? It angers me that while most of baseball was exhaustively focusing on player drafting and development over the last several years, the previous gm was laughing at the notion of 'rebuilding'. It will be a long time before this team is a serious contender again. And why is Komerko still on this roster?

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Nov 8, 2013 -> 06:29 PM) I think the Sox would be making a big mistake in trading Beckham. He has a ton of talent and was showing it last year for certain until he was injured. You trade a person of his caliber and get what in return? Plus how do you find a replacement at 2B? Semien got a showcase for a month. L Garcia also. I like Semien but I think 3B is his spot or he takes the role Keppinger was supposed to fill. I don't think you do these stories with the idea it builds up trade possibilities. There are so many posters who call players seasons disappointing and let's talk specifically of Beckham. What are the realistic stats we should be seeing? Can one player be the teams salvation? It is a team effort and all pieces fit and make the contribution. You aren't going to have 25 all-stars on the team regardless of how much the Yankees, Angels and Dodgers tried to buy them. Beckham needs to stay. You don't create a hole in the team because you seem to have some pie in the sky idea of what the player should be doing productionwise I don't think that Gordon would be as disappointing were it not for his position in the draft. If you can't find a decent major leaguer picking 8th in the draft how are you ever going to develop a farm system?

Given the state that our organization is in compared to teams like Tampa Bay, Oakland, Cleveland, Detroit, Boston etc, there is no doubt in my mind that this team will have zero shot at winning anything for about four or five years at least. If Hahn is unsuccessful in landing some quality free agent talent this off season, he is going to have a tough decision regarding Sale and Qunitana because this team will lose over 100 next year. The fundamental question here is will either of the guys be part of your next championship core? If that answer is no, then you have to consider what those two players may get you in return. It's not like you have to run out now an deal them, but I would consider it at the trade deadline next year for sure. Let's face it...you don't neglect your farm system for years the way the Sox have had an not pay steep price for it.

Great back to back contributions by the Danks brothers. Lets all be glad that Tyler flowers is an only child.

Great back to back contributions by the Danks brothers. Lets all be glad that Tyler flowers is an only child.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ May 12, 2013 -> 04:27 PM) The problem is we're more than one Edwin Jackson or bat away from competing in the Central still. We have four teams stacked up ahead of us...and that's 3 1/2 games ahead in the standings. So let's not trade Erik Johnson unless someone who knows something about pitching (and not Buddy Bell) is 100% convinced he's not going to be the next Gio, Hudson or McCarthy. Contending this year should not even be a consideration at this point. You raise a good point regarding our lack of being good evaluators of talent and the idea of rebuilding through a fire sale. Simply put, other teams are much better at recognizing and developing young talent than the sox and yet we have this notion that we are going to restock our farm system with the garbage that we have. That Probably will not happen.

QUOTE (TaylorStSox @ May 12, 2013 -> 05:19 AM) That's absolute bulls***. The Sox have tried to sign FA's and been successful few times. They've even tried to overpay. (Hunter) You guys look at every team as if they're equal, and they're not. One of the reason I liked KW was that he understood that he had to be unorthodox and aggressive to win here. It's not a coincidence that he's a Raiders fan. He had some Al Davis in him. Yeah, sometimes he took huge risks and struck out, but he always fielded a competitive team that was capable of making noise. He drafted low ceiling/high floor players to fill roster spots and tried to get impact players through trades. It didn't work out, but I get his philosophy and think it was a good one. All teams aren't created equal, and the Sox aren't an attractive organization. That's the reality. All things equal, free agents don't want to play on the south side. Strongly disagree. Williams' approach was totally unsustainable. At some point, you are going to run out of prospects to trade and pick up veteran players with awful contracts. If you have the financial resources and can buy your way out of trouble like Boston or New York, that's fine, but obviously the sox are not. do not think for one minute that Kenny didn't realized that last summer when he decided to run away like a scared child and step down leaving Hahn to clean up his mess.

QUOTE (winninguglyin83 @ May 12, 2013 -> 01:04 AM) I have faith that Hahn will get some solid prospects and wait until the time is right to get value for some of our guys. It's imperative because that is how he will be judged. nobody can hold him responsible for this sewage. This is a Kenny Stanford production. As for Dunn, he'd better think long and hard about retiring because if this team keeps losing and he remains at sub .140 (currently .139), it's going to get real unpleasant for him. I cannot blame Hahn but he did not have the greatest off season either. The bench that came put of spring training was awful and what in Tyler flowers' body of work suggested that he was a major league player

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 12, 2013 -> 12:54 AM) Has the majority of you given up on the season? Serious question.

QUOTE (Knuckles @ May 12, 2013 -> 12:54 AM) Has the majority of you given up on the season? Serious question. Yes. The only drama at this point is how Hahn handles the sell off. I worry that it's just going to be a money dump with few legit prospects in return.

Rick Hahn should at least start dispaching scouts to contending clubs' farm teams just in case a sell off is warranted. At this point it does not look good.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 10:36 PM) The strategy is to rebuild on the fly. This strategy only works if you either tradeable assets and/or a decent minor league. JR stuck with Williams about two years too long. Hahn has nothing to work with. I predict that it will be a short stay for Rick in Chicago.

QUOTE (Jake @ Apr 20, 2013 -> 10:35 PM) If Keppinger can't outplay Paul Konerko at 1B, we should revisit the logic of that signing The logic of projecting full time stats for a part time player was the flawed logic

Lost in all of this is this...why would you try to radically alter the hitting approach of a free swinging hitter in his 30's, especially one that is so one-dimensional as Dunn (home run, walk or strike out)? Was this Dunn's idea or the coaching staff's? I know that 2012 did not end well for Dunn but the overall numbers that he put up are what Adam Dunn is. Lemme guess...Kenny didn't realize what he was getting when he signed him.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 12, 2013 -> 02:56 PM) I am not sure why people think it is easy for Rick Hahn to make moves. 1) We don't have much money to play with in free agency, so he really can't acquire anyway using that method. 2) We don't have a deep minor league system to deal for a proven veteran. 3) We don't really have that many valuable assets on the ML team. We have old veterans making a lot of dough who are not that attractive for other organization and we don't really have the young talent that teams pine over. Exactly. My hope was the Sox would have made a GM move two years ago. By delaying the process, it only made it more difficult for a 'build from the ground up' guy like Hahn. This will take a while, folks.

QUOTE (Doc Edwards Shot @ Oct 19, 2012 -> 10:17 PM) I sincerely hope the Sox don't bring A-Rod here. He's going to suck for a lot of money even if the Yankess eat most of his contract. Besides, I'm tired of them acquiring over-the-hill, washed up former All-Stars. When are we going to get someone good in their prime for once? Uhh...when Kenny stops being the GM and when we cycle through the Konerko, Dunn, Danks, Peavy and Rios contracts so that we can put more $ in player development....

I don't get it...You give Kenny a rating of 9 out of 10, yet you cite, correctly so, a critical deficiency in the low OBP of the players Kenny selects. Correct me if I am wrong but if putting together a team of players with the necessary skills to win, like OBP for example, why would you rate Williams so high?

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Sep 27, 2012 -> 03:03 AM) KW will may the decisions more than Hahn. I hope Kenny goes. He is the reason this franchise will suck for years to come.

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 04:04 AM) ....viciedo? Nope. maybe with another team

Hawk..."We got some great youn talent in this league" Too bad none of it is on our team

QUOTE (Melissa1334 @ Sep 22, 2012 -> 03:59 AM) yea, looking more and more like hes ready to just be a dh or he just might be done.

I hate to say it but Paul Konerko is starting to remind me of Jermain Dye's last season in 2009 when he started out hot and completely collapsed in the second half.

QUOTE (chisoxt @ Sep 13, 2012 -> 04:20 AM) I want to see Robin change pitchers in the middle of an at bat. My take is that Robin hates managing after all and wants to get fired.

I want to see Robin change pitchers in the middle of an at bat.