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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Sep 30, 2015 -> 09:00 PM) Well this explains why he hasn't been playing. Scott Merkin ‏@scottmerkin 1m1 minute ago Micah Johnson told me he's having arthroscopic surgery on his left knee Thursday. Yep... You can scratch him off as someone that's going to help this team in the future. Absolutely amazing....we had three potential future guys to take over second base (Johnson, simean, Sanchez), the future looks bleak at that position too. How can we count on this organization to effectively develope players when they constantly fail like that?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 25, 2015 -> 02:40 PM) No contradiction. He's a "keeper" in the sense that he's a decent baseball player. I hope the Sox trade him because he's not as good as his numbers, he'd return value and you can't build a team trading prospects only. Trayce Thompson is a building block and should be our CF next year. But Robbie boy keeps wheeling out Melky, Alexei and Eaton day after day after day. This is so laughable I had to chime in. So you want to trade a decent young player with the team friendly contract to get prospects in the hopes that maybe one of them will be as good as the player you're getting rid of? I will say this however - I don't think the White Sox really like Eaton (and why would they? He's a good player). Every time Robin opens his mouth he's always seems to be ripping on him. I don't think the White Sox will trade him, but if he had a second have similar to one that he had in the first half, I guess anything would have been possible

QUOTE (harkness @ Sep 17, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) Roberston has two pitches and his fastball is meat.... He just is so vulnerable. He also comes across to me as soft. He's had a number of other scares in the ninth as well. Not a good use of money. He may be the worst contract we have now, even more so than Danks.

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Aug 28, 2015 -> 04:21 PM) I just don't understand this logic. Trayce is older than Avi and put up inferior numbers in the minors. Why do people all of the sudden think he's the answer? Because he's played good for the few games he's played? He put up low .700 OPSs in AAA. The odds of him just suddenly figuring it out at the ML level are not that high. I need to see at minimum another 200 PAs before I even consider beginning to make any sort of judgment on him. Yeah, I unfortunately agree...I would feel more confident if Trayce put up bigger numbers in the minors. Could it be that the light bulb all of a sudden turned on for him? Maybe, but I'm skeptical. At the very least, he will be a good fourth OF.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 25, 2015 -> 02:13 AM) Stupid base running. Avi is horrible on the bases He is a really bad player. Once again, we get screwed in a trade we so desperately needed to win.

The White Sox have almost NEVER been that adventuresome when it comes to hiring announcers...For those here advocating sweeping changes, be wary. JR has never been a big believer in top tier or fan popular voices as evidenced by the exits of Caray, Rooney and to some degree, Paciorek. I see more along the lines of Swirsky (under contract with the Bulls) and Rowand (2005 team, enough said) as likely replacements. It sure wont be anybody good.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 28, 2015 -> 08:48 PM) In Ventura's defense, it's really difficult to have confidence in the pen lately. It's starting to look like last year. Of everything said on this thread, this would be the only justification for rolling the dice and going with the starter. Our pen has become very awful recently.

QUOTE (South Sider @ Jun 23, 2015 -> 08:08 PM) The only way I am trading Sale is for someone elses MLB ready players, and I think the White Sox should explore every avenue of doing this until they find a deal that knocks their socks off. There are 4 reasons why I think we should trade Sale for MLB ready prospects. 1) I don't trust the Sox organizational coaching staff to produce MLB capable position players, so prospects that are 2-3 years out are not an option. 2) I don't trust the Sox front office (nor do I think they have the horses) to pull of enough of the right trades and free agency signings to field a competitive team. This 2015 team has proven to me that organizationally developing winning baseball players is the new age model. Catching lightning in a bottle like in 2005 is just what it is, lightning in a bottle. One in a million. You need luck, and I'd rather have an organization that successfully produces MLB capable players then rely on luck any more. 2005 was great but we can't really expect something like that to ever happen again. 3) If he hurts himself and loses his "stuff" after a surgery, our team would be geniuses to have sold him at his highest possible value. 4) If he doesn't hurt himself and succeeds mightily with a new organization, it should have been deemed a "fair" deal as the Sox should have gotten a kings ransom for him. The list of needs for this team are now 3B, SS, 2B, LF, C and potentially CF and RF (I still hold out hope for Eaton and Garcia) and there is no way in hell we are going to produce, sign or trade for enough players that will fill every position. We have a few promising prospects, but not enough to think that we will be able to compete for a title while Chris Sale wears a Sox uniform. I love me some Chris Sale. Many fans will be pissed off, those with Chris Sale jerseys and those who think the Sox would be fools to trade one of the best pitchers in baseball. The Sox most likely will not trade him because it will isolate fans. But so many are already isolated. How many seasons can we be done with baseball by May? If I'm going to be putting up with seasons of being done with baseball in May, there needs to be some kind of light at the end of the tunnel, and I'm just not so sure that there is one right now. Trading Chris Sale can be a franchise changing move. As much as I love him, I'm really hoping some team steps up to the plate and pays the price for him. Well said. I wonder if the GM has the stones to do it?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 14, 2015 -> 07:57 PM) That's a waste. There is where the accountability is the least. No position player development and yet the people involved keep their jobs. Yeah it sure is ... Just look at the cardinals, royals cubs and Astros

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 14, 2015 -> 07:43 PM) The 5 million dollar arm This organization is killing itself by throwing money at mediocre talent - that's why they have to put money into player development instead of chasing after mediocre 30+ free agents

Hawk. It just wasn't one error... I counted FOUR defensive miscues that inning. His play by play is insulting

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 10, 2015 -> 12:49 AM) That's the aggregate number. Individually: Emilio Bonifacio -0.2 Adam Eaton -0.3 Tyler Flowers -0.3 Micah Johnson -0.3 Carlos Sanchez -0.4 J.B. Shuck -0.4 Conor Gillaspie -0.4 Alexei Ramirez -0.6 Melky Cabrera -1.0 I think the batting practice backstop has a higher WAR than TFlo

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Jun 9, 2015 -> 07:58 PM) It reminds me of the Detroit Lions under Matt Millen when their 1st pick every year was a WR. No doubt you take the best player but this organization just can't produce position players. I know what you mean. It will be fun watching Fulmer lose 3-1 (1 run earned) on a consistent basis.

Chuck Swirsky is going to arrange for Dan Jennings to meet Fred Hoiberg. Chuck better move fast- Jennings is DFA material.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ May 5, 2015 -> 12:40 AM) The eye test tells me the Sox are horrible. They give up way too many outs on the basepaths and dont save enough in the field. They do not give enough value to outs at the moment. When are we going to admit that practically every organization in baseball is better than us in evaluating, drafting and developing talent. And they should be. While our brilliant GM was scoffing at other organizations who were embracing advanced metrics and investing money in younger players, we were wasting resources in acquiring players like Rios, Dunn and Peavy on teams nowhere close to contending. How many times on the draft have we bypassed talent that we did not want to pay for, instead reaching for toolsy and grindy players that we could get on the cheap. I liked the moves that Rick made in the offseason. But as we are learning, it's very hard to short circuit the rebuilding process

What was Venture thinking of or trying to do? Save his timeouts going into the half? Its time to cut bait with this guy.

QUOTE (beautox @ Aug 27, 2014 -> 01:51 AM) Please move Avi to left field and sign Rasmus this offseason. Also can't wait to just see our core perform night in and night out. Didn't we have Rasmus for a brief moment? Instead we flip him for a garbage starting pitcher.

I'm afraid Avi is not much better. Dh may be well suited to Garcia. A roster spot on Another team may suit Dylan well

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Aug 17, 2014 -> 09:05 PM) 7th walk today Is it possible to hate every single pitcher in our bull pen??

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 13, 2014 -> 10:24 AM) http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=93013 This is just part of the story. Most would posit the viewpoint that there's a 3-4 game shift with a league average or slightly above average bullpen, from top to bottom. Or if Addison Reed had been the closer all season long, and the Davidson deal had never been made...which would have left Putnam, Petricka and Belisario in their more customary/comfortable set-up roles. That would put them around 6-8 games over .500 (of course, a big assumption, and one that can never be proven one way or the other). Fwiw, Royals are 10 games over, Detroit and Seattle are tied for the wild card lead at 9 over .500 currently. Nicely done OTOH, we have a -54 run differential (a lot of that was due to three huge beatings in the last week or so) and are currently tied with the Mets and Padres for the 9th worst record in baseball. As far as the future, Daniel Webb's a huge question mark. Nate Jones is out for 2015 and might not be re-signed even. Do we bring back Lindstrom, and to what purpose, just to try to flip him again in July or August, 2014? Wouldn't it be better to choose Petricka (for example) and give him a chance to learn and grow as closer and stick around into our competitive window? It seems pretty clear Hahn's not going to forfeit a first round draft pick on bringing in a closer like Koji Uehara, David Robertson, K-Rod (leading the NL and maybe all of baseball in saves), Casey Janssen or Rafael Soriano. That's why you'll see the huge back-and-forth argument about the benefits of finishing with a bottom 10 MLB record, which would protect that pick if we signed a top FA. The Mariners, for example, signed Fernando Rodney for $14 million over 2 years and that was a huge bargain, so far (when you look at our spending on Downs, Belisario and Paulino, comparatively). But can Hahn pick the right guy from that list of five and not have it blow up in his face like Keppinger or Downs? We'll find out. Our three best arms in the minors are Rodon, Montas and Adams, and it's unlikely any of them would be converted to closer with the dearth of rotation depth at the major league level. Fwiw, I might switch Erik Johnson into a bullpen role to see if he can contribute anything or figure out a way to get more juice on his pitches in shorter stints. But closer, no way....just an experiment. Great analysis

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Aug 3, 2014 -> 09:20 PM) I want Beck to retaliate. As I recall, avi had some issues with being able or unable of getting out of the way of inside pitches.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Jul 9, 2014 -> 01:02 AM) Who saw Parent completely grab his package twice? lol And the funny thing was that hawk (referring to something else of course) said....here it is the same time parent was crotch grabbing

The dearth of organizational pitching talent is both inexcusable and embarrassing. Maybe the white sox can start to draft pitchers with, you know, actual skills instead of relying on Don Cooper to reclaim anybody with their throwing arm artAched to their body.

It's amazing how many fans have left the orioles. Good team, ace pitcher, nice night and a rather empty park.

Chris not fooling them do far