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QUOTE (Latilleon @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 07:14 AM) At what point does "Ghengis Hahn" become "Genius Hahn?" Ever gonna be "Goldie Hahn?' Hoping someday that when Kenny is totally out of the picture and Rick runs the show completely himself that we can call him "Hahn Solo"

The other added bonus is when all of these guys are MLB ready to seriously contend, our payroll will be "dink" to the point where we'll have a ton to spend on whatever holes there are.

QUOTE (Al Lopez's Ghost @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 08:39 PM) One thing about Harry. Nobody could sell baseball better than he could. He would compare Kevin Bell and Bucky Dent to Robert Redford and Paul Newman. He'd be doing the same thing with our young prospects. Of course that was before he came to despise Reinsdorf and Einhorn, and vice-versa. Man all of you guys with your posts are bringing back a lot of memories that I forgot about. A far as the prospects issues and their descriptions, one time I laughed my head off and at the same time felt real bad for someone. It was a certain relief pitchers major league debut. I am sure all of his family and friends were watching. He had a real rough outing, not hitting the zone, walking guys etc. Then Harry (half in the bag says out loud in UTTER DISGUST about him) "PABLO TORREALBA....WHERE DO THEY GET THESE GUYS????"

QUOTE (greg775 @ Apr 1, 2017 -> 10:24 PM) Harry would actually read your name if you gave the guard a note with your name on it, acting like he knew you. he did not do that when broadcasting Cub games, just the Sox years. Hey ... Billy Jones and his buddies are here from Naperville; Kendrick Thomas and his friend Tim Miller are here from McCutty's bar. Pretty cool he'd say you were at the game on the air. Wow did you ever bring back a memory. TOTALLY forgot about that. That was soooo cool that he did that

My brother once told me that he sat in the bleachers not far from Harry on a double header. He told me that the first game wasn't even over with yet and he saw some kid who was hauling up another case to him.

Anyone know if this thread is the one with the all time most pages and replies ever? Was just curious what the all time winners are and their lengths as far as pages and replies?

THX for the post.

In total agreement with everyone this thread and others. I think what we are getting back now, and with whoever we trade off in upcoming weeks CAN be a great asset. I didnlt mean for this to be a doom and gloom thread. My whole things was, that its pretty sad when ownership puts us in this position to have to sell everyone off, and then most of the same ones that are running the helm, are the same ones that caused the issue in the 1st place. Am HOPING as others have mentioned elsewhere that as all the players that we obtain become major league ready, that when that time comes, that MAYBE just MAYBE we will have new ownership, and the likes of KW and Buddy Bell will be long gone. JR's loyalty to KW Buddy and RV, has been KILLING us. PLUS when the kids are ready to make an impact, we may have a ton of extra money to spend on the holes that may be there at that time. I "DO" believe the future can be REAL bright. I just believe that we have to weather it out the next 2 years and then see what plays out. LASTLY, nice to see Hahn is playing hard ball and making sure we get a haul before pulling triggers.

Well guys, sorry this is rather long. I don't post often, so bear with me. There have been a lot of threads yea and nay as to what The Sox are doing and who they are letting go and who they are obtaining. Here's my take on the whole thing. Unfortunately, all of the arguing could be avoided if it wasn't for the front office. In the last "unpteen years" we have developed from our system only a few players that became something, Ventura, Crede, Thomas, and possibly Anderson just to name a few. What has REALLY HURT everybody here is not that Sale, Eaton and "more upcomings" are leaving. It's the fact that JR's loyalties have put us in the position that we are in. We have proven that we can't develop players, and yet Buddy Bell and so forth were still at the helm of player development. Hasn't produced SQUAT, so we get dumpster dive free agents to try and help to mold our young kids since the farm Failed at it. Plus, if we had great scouting and player development, we would not have had to get these old washed up has beens. We woud have had MULTIPLE position players already in place, and not wasted our time and effort with guys that we could maybe SQUEEZE another year out of. (Another of KW's failed brilliancies) Granted we did go after some big names at that time Frazier, Cabrera etc, but since that didn't work, we are FORCED to trade all of our elite players away to build up a farm that development has failed miserably at. And yet Kenny and everyone under him still have their jobs. Plus the loyalty to Ventura. He should have been canned years ago. Not only that, but at the start, we could have signed Francona instead of Ventura. Once again JR's loyalty to Kenny, Ventura, Buddy Bell trumps winning. The bottom line, if Reinsdorf's "drive" to win Trumped loyalty, Kenny would have been CANNED eons ago, We could have have a manager with 2 rings, and player developement and scouting would have been shaken up years ago. WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO KEEP SALE, Q, ABREU. EATON etc etc, IFFFFFF we had the farm to build around them. So in essence, JR cuts our throats by failing to address PROPERLY all the things and people that have brought us to the point that we are now in. And that is ……having to unload elite franchise players, in order to build up a system in what his hired hands have failed to do. Because of his lackadaisical attitude, we as the fans suffer by arguing and watching a once in a lifetime player like Sale, and a duo of Sale Q go down the drain. Closing: this is what we are dealt with, and we can only hope for some kind of miracle after its all done. It just so HURTS to not see a Trio of Sale, Q.and Rodon to never get a run in October together. YES I know tha cartoon is sarcastic, but in essence……I DO HAVE hope that what we will get in our returns will benefit us greatly. It's just so sad to be put in this position in the first place because of poor front office people that suck at their jobs and make the fans suffer and pay for it. I am a Sox fan for life and will support and watch them, even when there are people under the leadership helm making decisions that I have no control over.

QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Dec 8, 2016 -> 12:19 PM) this is just a test post fro a future thread. Had a lot of strange characters that came up a coupe weeks ago I pm's SSK2, and he said that he had never seen and wasnt sure what it was. If this post comes out OK then please delete. If the oddball characters come up again, then I am puzzled as heck, and have no clue how to get rid of them so i can post in the future coool looks fixed . Delete if so choose

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QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Nov 14, 2016 -> 11:55 AM) If a deal does pan out somewhere, just kind of sad seeing his talent that was brought up in our system and never seeing him pitch a playoff game with us. Fans wanted to see it bad and so did he. n to interfere with SmartVideo. Please add this url to adblock whitelist.","calculating":"Calculating","waiting":"Waiting","will_start_buffering_when_initialized":"Will start buffering when initialized","will_start_playing_when_initialized":"Will start playing when initialized","completed":"Completed","buffering_stalled":"Buffering is stalled. Will stop.","stopped":"Stopped","hr":"Hr","min":"Min","sec":"Sec","any_moment":"Any Moment","popup_donate_to":"Donate to","extension_id":null},"prefs":{"desktopNotification":true,"soundNotification":true,"logLevel":0,"enable":true,"loop":false,"hidePopup":false,"autoPlay":true,"autoBuffer":false,"autoPlayOnBuffer":false,"autoPlayOnBufferPercentage":42,"autoPlayOnSmartBuffer":true,"quality":"default","fshd":false,"onlyNotification":false,"enableFullScreen":true,"saveBandwidth":false,"hideAnnotations":false,"turnOffPagedBuffering":false}}"> wow NO idea what happened on that post just hit reply n to interfere with SmartVideo. Please add this url to adblock whitelist.","calculating":"Calculating","waiting":"Waiting","will_start_buffering_when_initialized":"Will start buffering when initialized","will_start_playing_when_initialized":"Will start playing when initialized","completed":"Completed","buffering_stalled":"Buffering is stalled. Will stop.","stopped":"Stopped","hr":"Hr","min":"Min","sec":"Sec","any_moment":"Any Moment","popup_donate_to":"Donate to","extension_id":null},"prefs":{"desktopNotification":true,"soundNotification":true,"logLevel":0,"enable":true,"loop":false,"hidePopup":false,"autoPlay":true,"autoBuffer":false,"autoPlayOnBuffer":false,"autoPlayOnBufferPercentage":42,"autoPlayOnSmartBuffer":true,"quality":"default","fshd":false,"onlyNotification":false,"enableFullScreen":true,"saveBandwidth":false,"hideAnnotations":false,"turnOffPagedBuffering":false}}">

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QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 14, 2016 -> 02:47 PM) First 72 games: 28 home 44 road Was going to post that stat as well along with this one.. We have proven that we cannot beat our own division on a regular basis, so along with the 28 home 44 road to start, the 1st 25 of 28 games are against our own division with the other 3 being "AT" Yankees. All I know is if JR said he wants to win badly, then I have NO CLUE what they can come up with to overcome these 2 huge obstacles that face them before the season even begins. To be even JUST 500 after the 1st 2 months would be a miracle in itself.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Aug 22, 2016 -> 02:45 PM) https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2...w=670&h=521 Maybe he just doesn't want to watch, but I'm thinking Shields shouldn't be looking away as he is releasing the ball. Perhaps maybe it is part of his command problems. Could be right. But may also be doing that in anticipating of getting his head knocked off by the way he has been getting jacked by the opposition him lately.

QUOTE (Lip Man 1 @ Aug 18, 2016 -> 01:19 AM) Franco had an absolutely terrific 1994 hitting with Robin and Frank. The guy drove in 98 RBI's, hit .319 and had 20 home runs when the season was cancelled. I'll take that every time. Regarding Carlton, I'd take these numbers too, in ten games, Carlton would have four wins, a 3.69 ERA and 40 strikeouts in 63 innings before being released at season's end. He made his debut with the Sox on August 17 by the way so that was nice timing. I noticed Andruw Jones' name on the picture. (His name was misspelled by the way LOL) Again the guy put up 19 home runs and 48 RBI's playing in 107 games. For a back up outfielder...I'd LOVE to have anybody on the Sox today coming off the bench who could do that. Canseco bailed the Sox out in the power department after Frank went down for the season with the torn triceps in his shoulder / arm. Jose hit 16 homers and drove in 49 RBI's in 76 games. And Youkilis? Only 15 homers and 46 RBI's in 80 games and he helped close a major chasm at third base. Some of the names on that list deserve to be there...others don't in my opinion. Mark Agreed on all parts. Just some examples of some others (even with some short good stints) were still gotten past prime and didn't last long in the system, and were kind of used as patches to fill holes instead of being acquired earlier in their careers when they were at their peak. I saw the Jones typo (LOL) after it was already posted) Oh yeah ...Forgot Swisher as well.

QUOTE (captain54 @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 10:24 PM) You forgot Krukie. John Kruk in 1995 I didn't put him on only because he had 159 at bats but did bat 308. If he was below 250 he would have made it

QUOTE (Rooftop Shots @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 09:32 PM) I hope that this isn't the same page that they claim to be on.hmmm photo didnt come out try again

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Aug 17, 2016 -> 07:47 PM) They've only earned the right to go to the playoffs ONCE after playing regulation 162 games in those 16 years, the 16 years, coincidentally, when some configuration of Reinsdorf, Williams, and Hahn has been the team's brain trust. Thank god for Reinsdorf's comforting confirmation that they are all 100% on the same page. Would hate to see anything interfere with the winning formula they've exhibited for over a decade and a half now. I hope that this isn't the same page that they claim to be on.

QUOTE (ron883 @ Aug 8, 2016 -> 11:21 AM) I can't imagine what it's been like for Jose. Had no idea he has been separated from his son for this long. I can understand that affecting your work life. And this is coming from one of Jose's harshest critics on this board. I know its unrelated and circumstances are different, but i remember a couple of years back Alexei was horrible and always making inexcusable errors as well as bat being in a coma. Later in the year we heard about (father in law? got killed) Weighed on him so much. Even Ozzie once said how Latin players take things much more emotionally that others. Next year after that.. Alexei had a great year. So.. Abreu not just seeing his son, but who knows if there were any other matters of his kids well being that we are unaware of.

QUOTE (GreatScott82 @ Aug 4, 2016 -> 10:31 AM) Anybody is better than Robin and at least Sandy has some coaching experience, however for once can they hire a guy with previous successful MLB managing experience? I DOUBT it, but any chance we would see Gardenhire? Not saying whether he would be good or a disaster. But wondering if experience and availability would factor in to the FO's decision? Got a feeling that the clubhouse may be gettimg tired of having sandlot managers

Knightni! Unlike many others.... I am not a regular poster or close friend of anyone on the board. Just one of the so called "Joe Shmow's". But at least I can still give you the most sincere sentiments from my heart that I have to offer. As far as words coming to you from my end..... all I can share with you is........... when the heart is that distraught.... in all reality.......it's really hard know that if there is anything that I could write that would bring any REAL words of comfort to you "at this given moment." It's obvious that you have many friends on this board that really care about you and what you are dealing with......and what a blessing that must be to you. So in essence.....from my end......in my caring for what you are dealing with....all I can do is pray for God's intervention to bring to you and your wife a peace and comfort during this time that surpasses all of human comprehension and understanding. During this time, may His divine love and comfort wrap around your hearts, and give you the strength that is needed until new days of joy and upliftings of the heart approach in the near future. Lean on Jesus. Tom

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Jul 23, 2016 -> 07:23 PM) All the scouts talk about Chris Sale's fastball and slider and changeup, and it turns out the thing that gets him in trouble was a cutter. https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/757007908974555137 that is hilarious

Still wonder. Sale has made it clear many times that he wants to stay in Chicago. Wonder if with home and family has made plans to settle in. Now being all KABOSHED if he was notified of a trade. and his long term family plans are all up upheaval.

Lot of speculations, but I k now that he has been VERY unhappy being pulled by Ventura the last few games. You wonder if all frustrations combined if he let it all fly on him, and let him have it on his managerial issues, and RV sent him home