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QUOTE(JoshPR @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:30 PM) How many times has this been asked? Several, I know Josh. But all in all, it's Iggy (my new nickname for him)

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:16 PM) I was referring to what sox-r-us said. I quoted you on accident and i did read the whole thread. It was just an accident. Ah my fault. I still love ya AJ.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:10 PM) Calling buehrle girlie is an asinine thing to say. I can definitely agree on that.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:07 PM) Why does he not realize nearly every single pitcher has a hand full of awful starts a year. Buehrle is not any different. I would like him to compose a list of better pitchers then buehrle over the last four years. Then laugh when he realizes there are not many on the list. What the hell are you talking about? I'm not talking about the starts in a season as inconsistant. Were talking about results in the season. Don't jump in to any convos if you didn't read the whole thread to begin with qwerty. But like I said I'm not gonna fight it. It's a agree to disagree basis and I'm sure not all of us will agree on everything.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 07:03 PM) Look at the career numbers my friend and look where they have pitched. One has pitched in Coors Jr, the other in SAFEco Park. (emphasis on the safety for pitchers.) And yet, Buehrle has better numbers. Year Team W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO 2001 CWS 16 8 3.29 32 32 4 2 0 0 221.1 188 89 81 24 48 126 2002 CWS 19 12 3.58 34 34 5 2 0 0 239.0 236 102 95 25 61 134 2003 CWS 14 14 4.14 35 35 2 0 0 0 230.1 250 124 106 22 61 119 2004 CWS 16 10 3.89 35 35 4 1 0 0 245.1 257 119 106 33 51 165 Year Team W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR BB SO 2001 SEA 18 6 3.05 34 34 4 3 0 0 238.2 199 88 81 16 69 163 2002 SEA 16 10 4.39 34 34 1 0 0 0 223.2 227 110 109 30 63 181 2003 SEA 12 14 4.51 33 33 1 0 0 0 201.1 196 109 101 31 71 144 2004 CWS 13 11 3.81 31 31 1 0 0 0 210.0 192 92 89 22 64 184 He is better but not by much. I can bet Buehrle's numbers would be around Garcia's in Safeco. Baseball is a crazy game. Stats don't prove s*** if you change teams or fields. But agree to disagree I guess.

QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 06:51 PM) A pitcher who has been inconsistent for most of his career So Buehrle would also be inconsistant right?

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 06:42 PM) Bruce Levine seems pissed off about this. He was going on and on about him being a massive cancer. They had a clip of AJ talking and he said he never had a problem with any ChiSox players and that he has a lot of respect for them and that he also knows Frank and Buerhle. I heard Buehrle and AJ were pretty good friends (then again who isn't friends with Buehrle he's a good guy to be around) I'm sure Frank and AJ have great respect for each other as well.

QUOTE(The Critic @ Jan 6, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) I'm done thinking about the Reed/Olivo for Freddy/Ben deal. What's done is done. Gotta give something to get something, and I'd rather have a good pitcher than a good outfielder. Exactly and this is comming from the biggest Reed fan on this board. I love the guy to death (in a heterosexual way) but we got a good pitcher for 3+ years, good outfielders to build on and who are waiting in the wings (Anderson & Sweeney) We'll be ok without Reed.

Well.. Kenny will not be mugged at soxfest. I'm proud of the man.

Ya I saw that eariler, this is just great.

This is just f***ing awesome. Found out like 20 minutes ago. Zero just s*** in his pants I'm shocked and f***ing happy!!

Something tells me that Valdez will have a good spring and make the roster easily.

I hope this rumor is true. It's good on a snowy day that some Whitesox action can still happen.

Happy B-day 1549.

Happy B-Day Heather! Say hi to Mr. Hill (my old Algebra teacher) for me.

Not sure if Iguchi is holdin the contract talks maybe cause imo, if he goes back to Japan, the sox would just give AJ the money left over (6-7 mil) and he'll see him soon. Maybe try and save alittle left but I hardly doubt Iguchi will recieve Kaz-type money anywhere else. If this happens, I think the sox might give a bench spot to a guy like Valdez (or maybe sign a cheap utility player) to fill that void. Just my two cents.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 06:08 PM) here is what I can find. You have an issue with Perez. Good for you. Some people like him some don't.The next thing I can find, is that, in no way has any whitesox authority said we cannot sign AJ because we paid Timo or because we are out of money. The third thing is, we seem to be the only team that has offered him a contract. Has anyone else even stepped up to make an offer? The fourth thing is San fran dropped his ass, if he was so great, he would have stayed with them for 3 million. the next thing is, although i am speculating, I do not think the sox will let someone they want go for 500k. Maybe a million, maybe an extra year but not 500k. If his caliber was so great, he would have been scooped up by now. That said, I want him, but not at an inflated price. Let the Sox do there job. I am sure something will happen soon.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 03:28 PM) Ohhhh that kind of boxer.... Damn it! I was thinking that too.

I hate the snow The only good thing about it is it can close Public schools. (doubt it will around my area tomorrow) Well.. gotta get the shovel ready.

Don't talk to me at all.

Wow!!

QUOTE(upnorthsox @ Jan 4, 2005 -> 12:55 PM) Otsuka? If he was in Suzuki or Matsui's caliber I'd be psyched to get him, but he's not so I'm not. Otsuka is a relief pitcher and a damn good one. Nasty stuff. I'd be psyched to get him in anyway.

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^^^^ That PWNS.

QUOTE(Mr. Zero @ Jan 3, 2005 -> 11:45 PM) I think right now is time for that famous quote... Let's agree to disagree. The topic of Timo Perez has seen the battlefield too many a time. It's time we lay it to rest and the let the season bring upon us what Timo Perez does next year. I agree. This will be my last post in this thread about Timo. Let's just see him be solid (or mediocre) for us so we can crown our sox the 2005 champs now shall we. R&w can have his little last word in I really don't care anymore.