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QUOTE (quickman @ Mar 19, 2011 -> 10:44 AM) Exactly not only that but the word out of AZ is that they really don't like him that much. Who knows maybe he will turn it on, but he is not our problem nor will he become some super talent. What's there not to like? He improved his BB rate a ton last year. 83 BB to 95 Ks. The power is real. Athletic enough to play a corner OF spot. He's going to K. But most power bats not named Pujols do. He doesn't have to become a super talent. Hell, I'm sure 'Zona would be more than happy if he could give them similar production as that of Adam Laroche.
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Brandon Allen, for whatever reason, hasn't been given much of a chance yet. He's torpedoed AAA the last year and a half. Nothing for him to prove there. He's #2 on the depth chart behind Juan Miranda. Which is pretty silly to me. But I would imagine BA will get a chance to really prove himself this year. Helps a lot that he's athletic enough to play the OF. I admit, I defended the trade when it happened. But looking back, it really was an awful move. An athletic 22-23 year old left-handed power bat with the ability to play multiple positions is a far more valuable commodity than the Tony Pena's of the world. Every team in baseball has a Tony Pena stashed away somewhere.
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QUOTE (IamtheHBOMB @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 03:10 PM) Do you ever get sick of being this guy? Honestly, no. I don't get my jollies from being the 'negative' guy. But as I get older, I can look at things from a realistic perspective. If you take off the black and white colored glasses, it's easy to see that potential disaster is possible if things don't work out this year. If you want to be happy and cheery all the time then go read a Scott Merkin Piece.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 03:16 PM) Mark Kotsay was in our pen? Oh, well I was talking overall. I've never had a big problem with how Ozzie manages the bullpen.
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QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 03:12 PM) I wonder if it is just urban legend that Ozzie sucks at managing he bull pen, or truth? Mark Kotsay was our DH last year. The end.
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QUOTE (Tex @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 02:40 PM) Pick one, give him a chance to be successful and don't be afraid to make a switch. This is one of those situations where a manager earns his pay, and where Ozzie hs room to improve. I believe Thorton has the better chance to be successful based on experience, but it would be sweet if Sale worked out. May as well. The last two AL ROYs were closers. I have no problem with Sale at least opening as the closer. Thornton has been the best set-up man in baseball. Only Mike Adams is close. Leave him there. But this is Ozzie. Where the obvious is never apparent.
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QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 01:57 PM) Say what? Their 5th starter position is up for grabs between Jesse Litsch & Marc Rzepczynski???? Yeah, I guess that was a stretch after the Marcum trade. I'm a big Deck McGuire fan, though. I wanted him or Drew Pomeranz with our first pick last year.
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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 12:59 PM) How many teams really have 6 or 7 major league ready pitchers for their starting rotation? There is a reason pitchers are in the minors. If they were good enough to be a solid starter at the major league level, they would be on a roster somewhere. Reds, Rays, Braves, Red Sox, Blue Jays.
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QUOTE (Lillian @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 11:30 AM) Well, if it's so easy to come up with productive bats, then doesn't that argue for trading some offense for pitching depth? You wouldn't argue that finding pitchers is also a simple task, would you? I don't know who should be shopped, but it just seems there is not enough pitching depth this year, and going forward. It doesn't seem that way. It is that way. But there's nothing that can realistically be done right now. A combination of poor drafting, the 1st commandment of thou shall not go overslot, and KW's gunslinger go for it every year mentality has left us with next to nothing internally. We're a mediocre 2011 season away from becoming the AL version of the Houston Astros. That's why this is by far the biggest season of the KW/Ozzie regime. It sounds simple. But it really is either win or fade away into the baseball abyss of suckage for the next 5 years.
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QUOTE (Lillian @ Mar 18, 2011 -> 06:39 AM) Are any of you worried about the pitching depth on this team? We all love the starting rotation, one through five, and the bullpen looks balanced and solid. However, is there even a single minor league pitcher in whom you'd have confidence to step up, in case someone got injured? Moreover, Buerhle and Jackson will be free agents at the end of the year, and Danks seems reluctant to sign a long term deal. That leaves Peavy, who has yet to prove that he can stay healthy, and Floyd who has yet to prove that he can be consistent. Of course, there is Sale, but he may be needed in the Pen, and no one knows if he can provide 30 starts, with that delivery. I'd feel much better if the Sox had one more, good arm, waiting in the wings. If by worried you mean terrified then yes. The Sox have the worst collection of starting pitching prospects in the minors. Nothing to even remotely acknowledge outside of a couple guys who dominated rookie and A-ball at ages 21 and 22. When Phillip Humber and Lucas Harrell are in the running for a rotation spot, depending on Peavy's healthy, that's all that needs to be said. Sale is not starting this year. That ship has already 'sailed.' An injury to Mark, John, Gavin or, gulp, Edwin and you'd have just as good a chance of inserting a Soxtalk poster into the rotation than any scrub from the system. The core of the Philly offense are borderline Geriatrics. The one young position player they have is Brown. They refused to include him in the Halladay trade. He should be back sometime in April. There's no way they would give up anything of value for CQ and have him take PT away from Brown once he's ready to go. CQ would've been traded months ago if there was a market for injury-prone, one tool, horrific defenders.
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QUOTE (flavum @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 02:20 PM) 2 run single for Castro off Ubaldo. 2-0, 1st Jackson getting slapped around by Milwaukee. 4-0, 1st Has nothing to do with this start. But I really believe Edwin Jackson is going to be one of the more hated players of the Soxtalk era.
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QUOTE (Milkman delivers @ Mar 17, 2011 -> 02:45 PM) Except the people making the jokes know they're bad and don't think they've come up with some great one-liners. Pretty much. I like Joecool. But a small chipmunk dies whenever 'hotfire' is said out loud or even typed. Worst nickname of the modern era.
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3-16 ST game versus Giants
Jordan4life_2007 replied to southsider2k5's topic in 2011 Season in Review
QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 04:26 PM) Kid named "Belt" just went deep, 2-1 Giants. Can't tell who's pitching, #60. Gray? You don't know who Brandon Belt is? One of the top prospects in the game. -
QUOTE (Felix @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:53 PM) For the record, Love didn't set a record and wasn't even close. No one is ever going to break Wilt's 227 game streak. Yeah, that's what I meant.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:46 PM) You're f*cked in the head and once again I thank the Lord you are not in charge. Kevin Love plays zero defense. Noah is a much better fit for this roster and I would hang the phone up immediately. Neither does Boozer. Neither did Rose or Deng before this year. Paul Pierce and Ray Allen played no D before '08. It's been proven, at least under TT, that in the proper system you can thrive defensively.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:39 PM) Let me put it this way...would you agree or disagree with this statement. Kevin Love's record would be more impressive if he'd done it on a team that went 40-13 than one that went 13-40. Well yeah. Anything is more impressive when you're winning. But we're not talking about a 5 year old record that was broken. This was a 35 year old record. It's impressive anyway you slice it. It should be appreciated and not scrutinized. And the sad thing is if Love bolts for a better team when he's eligible everybody will say he's a b**** and a coward for not sticking with his original team. It's a no-win situation.
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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:32 PM) So you're now upset the Bulls weren't terrible in 07, and they didn't "earn" the #1 pick? I'm missing your point. No, the point was that if we don't win the lotto that year none of this is happening right now. It makes it even sweeter because we had no business winning it.
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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:29 PM) None of those teams are losing though. That's where this whole discussion comes from. I don't think that matters in this case. Love has done his part and then some. That's a bad cast of characters around him. I don't see why his individual dominance is compromised because of that. Love has been one of the most statistically, standard and advanced, dominant players in the league. Why pigeonhole everything he does because his team sucks?
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QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:12 PM) Chad Ford in his chat. Chris (Los Angeles) The Bulls are downright scary. They're already on top of the East with a 22 year old superstar. A suffocating defense that was just put in place this season. A rookie head coach and a season full of injuries. If they ever get solid starting 2 guard, this team should be the favorites for the next decade. Chad Ford (1:11 PM) That essential explains why we put them No. 1 on the Future Power Rankings. The Thunder are a close second ... but we feel like the Bulls are legit contenders right now for a Championship, still have room for their young players to get better and should have the flexibility to add a two guard to the roster down the road via trade, free agency that makes them one of the most complete teams in the league. It's very hard not to be high on the Bulls' future right now. If they stay healthy, they could have a long, long run in them. 1.7 Those were the odds of the Bulls winning the lotto in '08. QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Mar 16, 2011 -> 12:22 PM) I think the feeling is his numbers wouldn't be nearly as impressive if he played on a team that has other players. For example, if he had a Noah or Boozer playing next to him, Love's numbers would come down a decent amount. So? You could say the same thing about Howard. Rose wouldn't be the front-runner for MVP had we signed 'bron or Wade. It doesn't take away from their skillset one bit.
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Five things the Sox need from Spring Training
Jordan4life_2007 replied to southsider2k5's topic in Pale Hose Talk
There's more fluff in this garbage of an article than a Scott Merkin piece. The Sox don't need offense from their 3B? The Sox are loaded with young talent? Stefan Gartrell is a stud in the making? So sad. -
QUOTE (Felix @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 11:15 PM) I'm not exactly sure why the Wolves would do that when we've got DARKO. He's like manna from heaven. It was a hypothetical. QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 11:17 PM) Love is obviously a better rebounder, but he doesn't seem like he is capable of playing good defense as a center. Noah obviously can. If you were in a vacuum and were just considering talent alone, then absolutely, but this isn't baseball where an upgrade in talent anywhere means an upgrade in talent for the overall team. You have to consider the needs of the Bulls, and really, they need Noah more than they need Kevin Love. There would be times it would be fun to watch, but Noah for Love doesn't make the Bulls a better team. Love's rebounding and by far superior offensive efficiency trumps Noah's impact defensively.
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So if the Wolves called Forman up and said Love for Noah, what do you do? Anybody that's says they'd keep Noah is a bold-faced liar.
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QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 10:13 PM) I'm with you on this one. I don't give a s*** that the Wolves suck or not, but damn I love watching Kevin Love play. And he really is a great player.
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QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Mar 15, 2011 -> 11:58 AM) If only we'd dealt for Courtney Lee, he could totally start at center for us tonight, right J4L? I didn't want no Courtney Lee. I wanted Mayo.
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QUOTE (chw42 @ Mar 14, 2011 -> 09:12 PM) Is that the fat dude from Drake and Josh?
