GoodAsGould

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 05:44 PM) 89 hits in his last 64 innings pitched - Shields can be someone else's mistake. He also has a ton of K's so he is missing bats too, I don't know much about the Rays pitching coach but it seems guys there focus too much on the K.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 05:45 PM) If DJ is correct, I say move him in a couple steps and have him work on drifting backward. I feel like I heard a few times he isn't very comfortable with balls hit over his head which is why he plays relatively deep. It would be something to work on in the off-season rather than now.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 04:40 PM) Fair market deal for Forte but I just dont see the point in giving a rb a long term deal. Odds are that Forte will be useless by the 3rd or 4th year of the deal. I don't see 4 years being overly long and I don't see many good RB's that would agree to a 3 year or less deal. I think Forte will be worth the money barring major injury for at least 3 of the years signed.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 04:23 PM) Although I agree with your point, flags fly forever. Whatever window the White Sox have left, in my opinion, it won't last long. I really hate that window statement, people have seemingly been saying it about the White Sox, Bears, and Bhawks for the past 5 seasons. Teams change there is no such thing as a window unless you are talking about the Celtics when the 3 main stars were all past their prime to begin with and even they put up a fight injured and all vs the Heat.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Jul 16, 2012 -> 04:36 AM) Reviving this with Ant-Man and Guardians of the Galaxy announced for Phase 2. Which means Phase 2 will be... Iron Man 3 - 2013 Thor: The Dark World - 2013 Captain America: The Winter Soldier - 2014 Guardians of the Galaxy - 2014 Ant-Man - 2015 Avengers 2 - 2015 Ant-Man is just some guy that can get really small and really big right, wonder how that will do in the box office.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 06:51 PM) Royals have some issues still. If Hosmer was hitting as he did last year, the Royals might have a pretty good offense. As such, the offense is blah and the starting pitching is a joke. The Royals have some good players in Cain, Perez, Escobar, Gordon, Butler and Moustakas. Not bad at all. Sox did a great job of stopping Butler in those 3 games at The K. Hope that continues the rest of the times we play KC. Butler can kill ya. Not sure what he has done to be grouped in with the rest of the players, I'd mention Myers over him and hope Cain is just avg. Royals are fine they just need to get a couple veteran arms this off-season and they will compete.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 15, 2012 -> 06:48 PM) Ugh. I don't even think the Sox wanted to keep Buehrle. They didn't seem too concerned about him leaving. Why call Mark something like that? I wish he was still in Chicago. Playing the lousy Cubs may turn Miami's season around. Is that series with Washington a wraparound 4 gamer? It's 1-2 vs. Wash over the weekend isn't it? Geez. You have it in for Ozz. I think you protest too much. He was clearly having fun with Buehrle and I'm sure the Wsox would have taken him back but only at a reasonable price. Miami is going nowhere and it isn't all on Ozzie but he sure didn't help the situation at all... and would you stop defending him so much just let it go and he prob gets brought up less... I'm starting to think you know him on a personal level.

Im just going to go out and say it people posting in pages 10-12 definitely some of the biggest whiny hopeless b****es on the board.

Watching this Royals team they really need to take a page out of the Pirates book, sign a couple veteran SP this off-season and they definitely will contend for the division. Especially if their OF prospect Will Myers is as good as advertised.

QUOTE (justBLAZE @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 07:25 PM) What channel is CSN+ on Dish? We don't get it right now, only if it's scheduled initially on CSN+. Right now Dish is dumb and doesn't adjust so have to wait till Cubs game is over.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 03:41 PM) The farm got criticized for having a lot of arms that looked destined for the bullpen (still seems to be the case for a number of current prospects), but in reality that's not so bad. Other than the stunning play out of Quintana and the unusual circumstances around Sale's draft selection, they haven't developed starters. Higher upside players (ie starters instead of relievers) grade out better with the prospect gurus so the system has always rated lower. That said, almost every pitching prospect the Sox had recently has had the stuff to be a good reliever. The Sox are very good at teaching control and mechanics and in recent years they've taken to drafting and acquiring big pitchers with big fastballs thinking they can refine the pitcher's stuff. Basically, they're taking advantage of what they do well and this is the result. Pretty cool, huh? Yeah but we also had B-Mac, Dan Hudson, and Gio Gonzalez in our system too all relatively young, when it comes to pitching as long as the Wsox aren't taking the safe first round college picks I think they know what they are doing, it is the hitting scouting and development in the minors that has been seriously lacking.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 02:55 PM) Then why bother? Neither is likely to outperform Humber, IMO, or really any other Coop-trash-heap-reclamation project. Aim higher or stand pat. If aiming higher is too costly, stand pat. I don;t mind a Coop project because it comes cheap and can turn into success. Guys like Wolf/Colon though aren't Coop projects and they likely aren't going to give us much better than Humber/Axel

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 13, 2012 -> 12:58 PM) What are things I would have never, ever guessed for $2000, Alex. @ckamka Alfonso Soriano (139) and Dayan Viciedo (133) are the only ML Left Fielders with 100+ Total Chances without an error this season. I wish fielders would get errors for clearly missed catches, even though he got the eventual out the fact Viciedo didn't straight catch the ball against Bautista should have been an error.

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jul 12, 2012 -> 04:52 PM) Yes, and you wind up cheering like an idiot for what turns out to be an easy out. Made me feel like a Cubs fan. Fans in the best seats do that and of all teams, Cub fans are just a little louder

Well even though he isn't always easy to deal with I did respect Badger's opinion before these last 2-3 pages, Thibs might play his guys too many minutes but he is a top5 coach in the NBA right now and wanting to get rid of him doesn't make any sense whatsoever. Also his opinion on wanting to keep all the guys is something any coach would say, it is the GM's job not to care and put together the best team possible to compete.

QUOTE (scenario @ Jul 11, 2012 -> 10:15 PM) The Sox sweetned their initial offer and guaranteed Ayala's eventual college education if he signed now. That closed the deal. The Sox and Cards both always offered to pay for his college education at the beginning to the best of my knowledge.

Is there a reason the last game/box thread was closed for the minor league games?

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 10, 2012 -> 11:18 PM) So I screwed one up. Only one complaint in all my grades is pretty good. Not only one, most obvious one. The fact you gave Humber a C because of one game is ridiculous. Guy deserves a big F, maybe you can say D- because of that one game.

Watched the first episode of Perception, not interested in watching a second.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 02:04 PM) Too bad Greinke's action caused the ejection. That wasn't small. That was as easy an ejection as you'll get. An umpire's job is to call and manage the game. Doesn't matter teams, inning, player. The end. Again, please write Selig to say that no ejections should happen in the first 3 innings. Again, that is not what I said... but disagreeing with you is like arguing with a brick wall and anyone in the college basketball forums would agree.... so I'm done.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:53 PM) Fans pay money to see a game. What happens when they are there is not guaranteed. Greinke should remember that they are there to see him pitch, not throw tempter tantrums and get ejected. The ump should remember the fans are there to see the players and not throw out a guy for something so small... see I can do that too

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:44 PM) It is the same, your whole argument is about WHEN the incident occurs. Look, if you want to argue that Greinke should never get kicked out for spiking a ball, go ahead and try to make that argument. But if you agree that's an ejection-able offense, it does not matter when the action occurs. Never has, never will. And why should it? A singular umpire-player incident has nothing, and should never have anything, to do with teams, game, standings, fans in the park, etc. It's that simple. Greinke ended his own game, go be pissed at him. But I can't wait until you run MLB so you can tell umpires no ejections until after the 3rd inning. Well I guess I care about the fans you care about the Umps that is the difference. I think early in the game they should show some leeway and remember fans pay money to see the players not the umps. As for spiking the ball it depends, if he did it out of frustration for something his fault I don't see a reason for it to be an ejection, if he threw it at the ground at the ump and started cussing him out that is a different story. The key is in the bolded, going headhunting intentionally is past that point and you know that wasn't my point at all.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) It is, as long as it's in the early innings. Can't take a starter out like that with some dumb ump's decision, fans want to see him pitch. We are talking about spiking the ball, not throwing at a guys head.... it isn't the same. One puts a person in danger one doesn't harm anyone.... On top of that, if Grienke did throw at a guys head the first time chances are he wouldn't get kicked out anyways with how the mlb is, hard to prove it was on purpose.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:36 PM) That's early 5th round money for Ayala. Nice pick up. The Sox are almost certainly done since BA has them exactly at their pool limit. Does anyone have information on the last 2 guys left, would they be minor league fillers or actually worth spending money on?

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Jul 9, 2012 -> 01:32 PM) I have no idea what you're talking about at this point. But in your world, throwing at a guy's head is OK early, you don't want that starter out to ruin the experience for the fans. Right because spiking the ball on the ground is the same as endangering a guy's health/career..... Like I said way to be childish and start acting out just because someone disagrees with you.