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up until now, we've played well against our division. As long as that continues, I'm not terribly concerned about a team 8.5 games behind us.

Soriano is probably the best at the moment, he's probably the 2B closest to being a 5-tool guy (needs to improve fielding). I do like my 2B to be more of a role-player on a team in terms of offense. A 2B ideally should be the #1 or #2 hitter on the team, I think.

QUOTE(Dam8610 @ Jun 17, 2005 -> 01:00 AM) And of course, we're #4. Better than being #2!!

I think the few shots he had at stealing bases this year, Willie has shown a lot of improvement.

I don't have anything to say about any conspiracy. The math I posted earlier could be entirely errouneous, too. My biggest beef is that there was no extensive forensic study of the wreckage of the WTC (the wreckage was quickly sold as scrap to India and China), certainly nothing on the scale of that such an attack (an attack on a civilian target of this scale is an act of war) merits. Couple this with the fact that key members of the government have admitted to failing to properly handle information attacks, there needs to be a scientific investigation of at least the scale of the Columbia and a legal/political/military investigation of at least the scale of Whitewater. Instead, we get a weak investigation full of "soft-ball" questions. The WTC may have been exactly what it seems, but we can't know that for sure. Nobody has been asking the right questions through the right avenues.

Thanks. 9/11 is a horrible tragedy and the fact of the matter is that not nearly enough investigation has been performed. As a nation, we spent tremendous resources investigating a president's property selling. When the Columbia happened, there were three full scientific and legal investigations and as a result we know exactly who was at fault and even the very serial number of the part that failed that probably caused the accident. Those results are publicly available, I believe. Columbia was terrible, but not on the scale of 9/11... why can't we apply the same science to 9/11 as was applied to Columbia.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 16, 2005 -> 03:39 AM) I have always believed that the WTC was taken down by a controlled demolition, or implosion. The way those towers went down, straight down, put that thought in my head shortly after the initial shock had worn off. Watching those buildings collapse reminded me of many newsclips of planned demolitions that I had seen over the years. Those planes came into those buildings at different angles and at different elevations, yet both buildings collapsed in the same manner. That's just too much of a coincidence for me to accept. I don't know anything about conspiracy theories and what not, but here is some basic high school math/physics for you: Consider: a) WTC Tower is 1400' tall B) Both WTC Towers took about ~9-10 seconds to collapse c) Gravity operates at roughly 32 ft/s/s d) x= vo*t + 1/2 a*t*t If I were to walk off the side of the WTC from the very top, my vo=0. Thus, 1400 = 1/2 * (32) * t*t t ~ 9.5 seconds Therefore, if I walked off the side of the WTC and feel to the ground, I would have hit the ground at roughly the same instant that the collapse of the tower reached the ground. This means, both WTC towers collapsed as though as in a free-fall. The structure of the towers provided no resistance as they collapsed. For the sake of argument, let's treat the collapse of the WTC as a hit-and-stick collision of two equally massed slabs with mass m. One slab starts at 1400', the height of the tower, and the other at 700', midway up the tower. The 700' slab is held up by massless supports, which fail instantly once the 1400' slab impacts the 700' slab. In a hit-and-stick collision, two objects have masses and velocities. When they impact, they combine into a new object of combined mass with a new velocity. The property is m1v1 + m2v2 = (m1+m2)v3 In our case, the fall only occurs in one direction, along the y-axis, so velocity calculation becomes simple: mvi + m*0 = 2mvn or, the velocity of the two combined masses will become 1/2 the velocity of the mass falling from 1400' when it impacts at the 700' level. So let's do the math, shall we? x = vo*t + 1/2 a*t*t 700 = 1/2*32*t*t t= 6.614378277661476 v = a*t v = 32*6.6 v = 211.6601048851672 ft/s Thus, the first slab hits the second at about 6.6 seconds at a speed of about 211.7 ft/s. Thus, now we can view the two slabs as starting a fall at 105.83 ft/s. Thus 700 = 105.83 * t + 1/2 * 32 * t * t 16 * t * t + 105.83 * t - 700 = 0 t = 4.0879 so in this case, the total falling time is about 10.7 seconds. As you introduce more slabs, the falling time should increase (this would take a lot of calculus, maybe if I have time to look at it later, I will). Also... we're assuming the tower is giving no resistance as it collapse, which it should be doing. That would introduce more of a collapse time. These are just simple calculations, that I feel introduce an element of doubt to the fact that the WTC towers collapsed purely because of the impact of the planes. There is enough evidence to warrant full scale scientific investigation and simulation, that I'm not sure has been done.

This has looked like early 90s Frank. I hope he can get healthy enough to play everyday.

OK, OK, OK... Chavez versus God? Trick question, Chavez is God! OK, OK, OK... Chavez versus da Hurricane Chavez...

"Which White Sox player or coach is most likely to tell a good joke?" Can the answer be Harold Baines?

QUOTE(southsider17 @ Jun 14, 2005 -> 02:59 PM) . Plus it goes against the conventional wisdom, which is how Kenny built this team in the first place. I'd say this team is VERY conventional in terms of its construction: lead-off man, a good #2 hitter, some sluggers, good defensive infielders, outfielders that can cover a lot of ground, 5 good starting pitchers, and a good bull-pen. Sounds like a recipe for success to me!

Does Griffey add something that Dye, Rowand, or Pods (maybe toss Everett in that list, too) adds to our team? Name power, and that's about it. Pods adds speed, Rowand is pretty balanced, and Dye would probably put up similar numbers to Griffey over the season (maybe a little worse offense, but a bit better defense). I'd say he'd be comparable to Everett, maybe a touch better offensively and defensively. We already have a log-jam at DH. No thanks.

We aren't nationally loved. We're not America's team, like the Cubs, we're Chicago's team. I actually think he'd be right: no one in America outside of Sox fans would care. Ok. So what's the problem? I don't see one.

Somebody give me a history lesson, what did Frank Robinson ever do? If you're going on past history, I hate to say it, but Dusty Baker has a tremendous career record and deserves better than 13th.

it means we can add someone to our 40-man roster

I saw this the other day and it shows how the bullpen is the hardest thing to build since it's damn near impossible to project a relief pitcher's performance for a year. It seems like you can reasonably project a position player's or a starter's performance, within a certain range, but there's no hope to do the same with a relief pitcher.

QUOTE(maggliopipe @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 09:59 AM) Everyone had the chance to get steroids before they were banned. Were they cheating? Steroids were always banned, just not sufficiently tested for.

Minnesota and Chicago have reversed roles this season and it's pretty sweet.

And my Phillies fan friends will be jumping off a ledge soon... $8million/year for Rollins?1?

QUOTE(3E8 @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 08:46 PM) Hee Seop Choi AKA Krayzee Twins Killa Maybe we should trade for Choi to replace Konerko next season?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 13, 2005 -> 08:36 AM) How about this scenario. We need to pinch hit for someone in a critical situation. The opposition brings in a right handed pitcher, who do we counter with? Timo, or Wille....eh we need Carl. Timo's clutch.

QUOTE(kman @ Jun 12, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) tight s*** was it a bomb/no doubter or did you have your doubts? no doubt.

and boom goes the dynamite.

I didn't vote because I'm a youngster and don't remember the 83 staff, which was awesome by all accounts. However, this is a great study: 3 of our 4 most successful teams over the last 22 years have had great starting staffs. Just goes to show how important that is.

QUOTE(chi-guy2 @ Jun 9, 2005 -> 11:25 AM) so we should use shingo against lefties and viz against righties Or... we should combine their powers into one uber-relief pitcher! When their powers combine... I AM....