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This is very fair. But I o think the national media just puts it in the context of there's not much money available from our lame duck owner. Some media will point it out others dont and kind of assume it's implied.

This is pretty funny sarcasm even if you ignore the fact that many many here were telling us what a toxic environment existed in the front office and now refuse to recognize that there's been considerable improvement in the work environment for both players and management because there are more employees with defined roles and communication and information . You act as if that's a bad thing .

It's almost like someone was in such a hurry to stir up more controversy that they didn't read the actual article with the correct grade. Eyes wide shut.

Getting all European on us . Much better than running the TP under the faucet . 🤣

Have I ever said you cant be critical ? I have said open your eyes thats all just as you asked me to keep in mind the team was at the bottom in 2024 and take 2025 with a grain of salt and I assured you that I took that into consideration.

Oh I do and I also know its an uphill battle without much of a playroll so you have to keep that in mind. Last years Pythagorean victory total was 71 wins. Someone correct me if I'm remembering that wrong. 2024 the Pythagoresn victory total was also higher and some people used that to bet on the over and make money. The line this year is 65.5 wins . It'll probably be higher before opening day barring another rash of TJ injuries or something equally catastrophic.

But he wasn't so maybe start seeing what he's doing instead of what you think should have been done because he was a pawn in a toxic and backwards power structure. Hes still a pawn of JR but building a foundation to build a better workplace to enable the people he hired to have a voice is good. We are seeing coaches and administrators all over podcasts now. Didn't see much of that before. And they all seem to be singing the same song about believing in what we're doing and trying to build a winning environment and supporting these fine young men.

The term victory lap was applied to the people praising Getz so it was the anti Getz doing the poking at the opposite side. We can have our opinions without denigrading opposite opinions .No GM is perfect and many things are out of his control. Hes tried to build an infrastuture to carty the team foward into the next owner based on empowering everyone with information. Sdems rather noble to me. Theres a kind of harmony throughout the organization now that has a lot to do the purity of being genuinely positive and caring about building something. A lot of people are starting to see that and they feel good about it. It isnt just the Rick and Kenny Show. A similar improvement to last year will get the Sox within spitting distance of .500. Step by step rebuild ,still without much of a player payroll.

Its like any other hot topic so who you want to censor now.Only you are allowed your opinion ?

Yup would hate to think something as lowbrow as guilt by association exists here.

And the spiral down had already started. Plus it seems obvious to me that Getz likely felt powerless and lacking information in his previous jobs since he's been building the infrastruture to support the acquisition of the highest qualify youth possible through data , scouts, coaching, communication, culture & tech.

Exactly most who praise Getz add the caveat " under the cirumstances" like Robert Murray just did. It's coming from a lot of places from respected media members. They might be just talking heads but Ill take their unbiased opinions over the hurt feelings of some Sox fans feigning fairness any time. Oh i do love alliteration ! Could have thrown an extra F word in there but too harsh.

Iykyk !

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Exactly but bigger !! Not bigger patches , more money for more things from CME.

I can't hate on JR for this .Every team does it. No idea where that money ends up but its not like hes doing something that all the other owners arent doing. Also who's to say this cant be a great thing moving foward. The company has DEEP pockets and the CEO is a Chicagoan from the Southside . Maybe it's an Ishbia thing or he's going to be interested in helping build a new stadium. Most of you guys need to start thinking big picture possibilities when a company like that becomes involved with the Sox, the better the future outlook of the team becomes. Not a single thing to dislike about this.

https://allchgo.com/join/ They are planning an event to go to ST with a Bulls game in Phoenix as part of the package.. Might be better to with a group with an itinerary and like minded Sox fans. If you have never watched the CHGO podcasts they are a part of All City Network and sports in multiple cities . In Chicago they cover, the all major teams and have podcasts of each one. The Bears get tons of coverage the Sox not much.Future Sox guys like Soxtalks James Fox and others from the Futute Sox podcasts have been on the CHGO Sox podcasts. You would probably need to become a Diehard Member of the Network to get a discount on the trip. Sometimes they have specials on becoming a Diehard Member . The All City Network relies on Memberships and Chat donations to support all the things they do . When the Bears went to England they had group outing for that. They have events in local establishments so being a Diehard Members works better for people in the Chicagoland area. But I dont think that means you would be excluded from event trips. It just might change the cost. I cant really tell you how it works because being in Ca. I've not given much thought to becoming a Diehard Member so thats why I gave you the link. So if that sounds interesting you have a month to figure it out. Maybe look up CHGO White Sox podcasts on youtube and watch some recent ones . I think they advertise the ST trip on the Sox podcast .I subdcribr to most Sox and FutureSox podcasts. It helps keep me informed and most are forward looking and not hyper critical .Good luck. Edit : Unsure if your dates coincide with the CHGO trip .

I will cheer for that as well but there's a journey that leads to that for which I also cheer . If I doubt the journey I'd feel like a fraud only acknowledging the excellence.

I often do as I cited when I said Getz is severly limited by having very little money. I just cant blame the grunts even if Getz is an Officer not an enlisted man. But he's still in JRs chokehold.

Ha if there was a Soxtalk in 1919 how long do you think we'd keep hearing jokes about White Sox players gambling till it died out ? We still hear jokes about the White Flag trade . Has the franchise history been lousy . Yep but wouldnt you dislike it if you personally did the same job and the majority expected you to fail. Rome wasn't built in a day. Do unto others etc etc.

I found what I was referring to on Spotrac. He's got up to $2M in incentives based on Starts and innings pitched. $100K for starts 8, 10, 12 ,14, 16, 18, 20, 22 ,24,26. = potentially $1M $100K for innings pitched markers starting at 60 ,then 70,80,90, 100 up to 150 by tens. = potentially $1M

Thete are option between blind faith and skeptical such as letting things play out for a couple years and giving him a fair shake and keeping in mind we know very little except that without money his impact as GM is severely limited. You may call that skeptical. I call it being fair and open minded.

I read somewhere that he' d be given a chance. unfortunatly I dont bookmark everything I find interesting. I thought it was a promise or in his contract. So whatever I remember reading I thought it was strongly worded. You pay more attention than I do likely because you do podcasts and Twitter . I do neither and only read 1 thing and dont remember seeing it again.

Wikelman looked good for his cup of coffee but maybe back to AAA to get the walk rate down unless he balls out in ST with K' s popping and BB's vanishing.

He probably will be at some point but he was promised a shot at starting.