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See my post above . I'd guess way less.

https://www.mlb.com/video/encarnacion-on-joining-white-sox Encarnacion and Hahn thoughts on joining the team and what he brings.

You are on top of things as usual. Were these higher or lower than expected ? I would imagine it's negligible either way.

Last year with the Yankees he made a little more than half a million and adj. salary of under half a million. He had a good year in a part time roll and will be 33 in April. Engel roughly made the same as Cameron last year. Engel won't get a noticeable increase for 2020. So the question is how much more will Cameron make this year being a year older with a better season under his belt but in a limited roll. I don't think $1M for 2020 is out of the question and you'd have to consider that super cheap.

Oh i like some of those. The Moncada one with the Metallica type font for the M and A is pretty cool cuz you know Moncada and Metallica both start with M and end with A so i like the creativity in the thought process.

You should define what you think is pretty good. Do you remember reading he got better when he went to the pen or do you have something to back that up ? I can't see any stretch in the game logs where he was any good. Also have to take into consideration half his games being in a pitcher friendly park. repeating AA, a heck of a lot of walks, wild pitches and HBP's. Being LH and being a high draft pick only takes you so far.

At least this kind of stat doesn't make my eyes glaze up and my head feel foggy, Hell I even took a stab at using sOPS+ recently.

Yes this what what I was hinting at when I used a bases loaded no outs situation in my example and said it was ideal to get out of that situation with only 1 or no runs scoring and I knew there was a stat about run expectancy but I couldn't recall what it was called.

I get the general feeling that Donaldson is a guy focused on his stats. He is very into launch angle and once said if he never hit another ground ball again he wouldn't care.So it is possible he is that into his own stats and might be looking to be in the best situation possible along with the money of course to pad his stats and make a legit finish to his career and wants to make the HOF. He might have some analytics guy who breaks down pitchers in each division looking for guys he hits particularly well, fly ball pitchers or whatever else he thinks will help him most.

Thanks for posting this . I also took it from here and used it in the other thread about the Future of the Sox which is kind of a catch all to how the national media views or has been viewing the Sox and the off season.

Just saw this in a new thread . Probably belongs here.

I assume that you mean by giving up a run you mean that runs were not charged to him. I say this because another important stat is strand rate for a relief pitcher. Let's say you come in with the bases loaded and no outs. You can give up a couple of singles that score all 3 runners. That's not good but the runs are all charged to the guy who put those runners on base . If the reliever gets out of the inning with no further runs , he is not charged with any runs thus preserving his ERA but doing bad in the runners stranded rate even though in that particular situation giving up 1 run or less is ideal. It's easier said than done.

There's also a ton of recent Sox video's from MLB Network here https://www.mlb.com/video/search?query=Chicago White Sox&tag=teamid-145 Three alone on the Robert signing . A long interview with Bennetti on the Hot Stove Show. Over 7 minute Interview with Keuchel on Hot Stove. Interview with Cooper about Keuchel and Gio Gonzales on SiriusXM A segment on the Encarnacion signing with Joel Sherman and Steve Corcoran of the Athletic showing how the Sox players acquired addressed their worst areas and used sOPS+ to show it. Most here used the WAR stat I used that stat a few days ago with a post on Mazara's ground ball , fly ball and ground out stats for the 1st time ever and couldn't remember seeing anyone else ever use it until i just saw that Encarnacion segment where they brought up how bad RF and DH, CF and 2nd base were in 2019 Kind of cool just using something brand new to me and seeing it used on a show. Just shows you can teach an old dog new tricks as long as the tricks aren't too complicated.

I mean you can go to MLB Networks page and find them just not sure if you are better at figuring out how to post videos. There's also one on a 1/7/20 MLB Tonight episode about 2020 AL contenders where AL Leiter also gives the Sox a lot of love. Steve Stone also talked about the Sox and Cishek signing on Mad Dog Russo's show on 1/7 on MLB Network.

I think people should feel free to post video's too. MLB Network has some recent ones that make predictions with Dan Plesac giving the Sox a lot of love. I can't figure out how to do it. It's not as easy as posting Youtube videos in here.

I saw this coming. I don't know why I'm still surprised when people who use the internet don't actually do just a tiny bit of research . It's not like you need a vast amount of knowledge to check what you are claiming . Google Steve Cishek, Baseball Reference, click on the link provided,scroll down to Splits , pitching , then click on either a year or career Yes he does worse against LHH but the stats are good just not as good against RHH. Not really directed at you of course. You pointed out the BAA for 2019 and career. Also the 3 batter rule is not really a 3 batter rule. A starting pitcher might go 5 .2 innings . The reliever brought in can either pitch .1 inning because he is pitching to the end of the half inning and then can be taken out or continue to pitch into the next half inning where he then has to pitch to however many hitters that he did not face in the previous .1 of an inning. So If he came in with 1 out to go , walked a guy then got the final out , he faced 2 hitters and then, if not taken out, would have to face at least one more hitter at the start of his next inning. He could get that hitter out and be done, The next pitcher can get the next 2 hitters out in a row and therefore not face 3 hitters but still be done because he pitched to the end of the half inning if the manager so chooses.

Thanks. My own opinion is that people barely know how to use WAR. Not calling anyone dumb just that you see it misused a lot and it's one of the easier ones to understand and mostly people focus on offensive stats and defensive stats still are considered unreliable if considered at all. I do my best as a very longtime baseball fan to take as much as I can into consideration but I would definitely have to consider myself more as an observer of baseball/White Sox and only try hard but often fail to get a rudimentary knowledge of advanced stats because to truly understand them I think an advanced knowledge of math beyond high school math is required. Not only that but there are so many advanced stats that even trying to gain rudimentary knowledge usually just consists of what the initials mean such as WAR is Wins Above Replacement and what Win's Above Replacement means in a general sense. At the very least it takes a great deal of time to talk intelligently on the subject and is something I will never be able to do. Not only that but message boards tend to give short answers so there's really no way to get "coached" into learning more or not getting that glazed look in my eyes when i try to understand.

So in other words defensive metrics are still mysterious. I don't understand this " The percentage stat is more like batting average and lets you more easily compare players with different amounts of playing time. " You gave us no clue what they are using to get a percent like batting average is AB's and hits, Is this chances and errors ? Seems unlikely since it's statcast and errors are subjective and not related to anything you can measure by filming it. Both stats are so similar in the rankings of the Sox players you listed that I can't tell one from the other without further explanation.

No Cuthbert is a depth piece . A lot of bad would have to happen between Leury and Mendick for that to happen. There is still a possibility they look for someone to replace Mendick just in case Madrigal takes longer than a few weeks . If it takes a month or longer the way the Sox see it now playing out. You could see a Yolmer signing or someone like Holt or Gennett but they just might value Yolmer's defense more. I think it's 50/50 they add another infielder. There's always the possibilty Madrigal come up and sucks so they may want to prepare for that.

MLB Network usually does an off season "Top Ten Right Now" based on analysts and the unbiased "Shredder". They usually have a sabremetric superpanel also so it's pretty comprehensive based on opinions and stats but not always seems to conform to the Right Now" label as some will rely too heavily on career stats and not as much as recent stats. Last year only Grandal and Abreu made it but if they are still doing it this year will possibly see Moncada, Giolito, Anderson. Top Ten Starting pitchers is a difficult one to make but Giolito will probably appear on some list during the discussions but I think the final list is up to the "Shredder".