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Mendick did play 3rd ,SS and 2nd base in the minors . If he can do that in the majors he won't be around long. I think the Sox do see him as a jack of all trades type but do they hold unto him or upgrade ? I'm biased so I want him kept around.

Reinsdorf would never hire Luhnow knowing he'd fire all the guys Reinsdorf considers family. Luhnow is ruthless. Get on board with the program or you are gone from the bottom to the top.

I like Ivanova . Sounds like a Russian hockey player when put together. He did exactly what they expected him to do .pitch and stay healthy . And he did more by mentoring . Thumbs up from me.

Ha yea must be nice to get 15x what a well paid American worker gets by putting in 1% of the hours . Hit me with one of those ouchies please.

If a 72 win Sox team can beat Cole so can a 92 win Sox team.This isn't beer league softball this is the MLB . Nothing should intimidate you once you are in the playoffs .

And this is why while in a rebuild guys with huge tools coming off a great season who play a premium position very well followed by a poor one in the minors should always be targeted. He had a monster season in A+ and AA in 2016 followed up by a terrible 2017 in AA. Of course Oakland does this kind of thing all the time as does Tampa Bay. The Sox ? Hmmm not so much.

Yea as far as recent publicity to a Sox player, Tim Anderson kind of led the charge into the let the kids play genre with his change the game type attitude with the bat flips and quotes afterwards about doing things to bring the kids into the ballpark.

Anyone else find it odd that the Yankees have 2 of the best center fielders? What's up with that ? You could argue neither one belongs on the list. Neither one played over 100 games in CF last year and the last time Gardner did was 2013. IS CF so devoid of talent that either should have been listed ? Hicks only played 58 games in CF last year due to injury and had a good season there in 2018 and another good season in 2017 but in only 52 games in CF. Basically neither one has done much in CF . Maybe the Shredder needs to define how many games played in CF in the last few years you need to be qualified, I guess being a Yankee automatically qualifies you. What a crock.

I beg your pardon. Mine were great ! Feel free to take your best shot and open yourself up to criticism. Ideally they should be short 2-6 words and convey a strong message about the current state of the team in a positive way . Hustle, power, attitude speed, youth and coming into the 1st expected good year emerging from the rebuild should all be in your head before you make one.

With your knowledge and education just thought you were capable of better. You know mottos are more about the words than anything else. Songs are more an end of season clubhouse thing like the Sox and SF Giants both using "Don't Stop Believing" .

One Shot implies you know you are only getting one shot so what does that mean for sustained success ? Surely doesn't apply for this year.

That's inspiring

Thanks. Naturally I thought all my suggestions were good ones. I particularly liked Rushing Headlong because the lyrics fit and in my head I envisioned Sox players like Moncada Robert and the other fast guys hustling , busting their asses on the bases and on the field diving, head first slides to score in a video montage in my head with the song as the background music.

It's up there .

It's 2020 so I think something like "One Vision" would have been good.Stole it from the Queen song of the same name. or "Only the Beginning" from the lyrics from the song Beginnings from the band Chicago or "Rushing Headlong" from the Queen song Headlong And you're rushing headlong you've got a new goal And you're rushing headlong out of control And you think you're so strong But there ain't no stopping and there's nothin' You can do about it Nothin' you can do No there's nothin' you can do about it No there's nothin' you can, nothin' you can Nothin' you can do about it Or "A New Hope" inspired by Star Wars

https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-luis-robert-white-sox-deal-20170520-story.html https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-white-sox/how-jose-abreu-rick-renteria-played-pivotal-roles-white-sox-presentation-luis-robert https://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/chicago-white-sox/video-pitch-helps-white-sox-sign-potential-cornerstone-luis-robert-loaded-farm-system-renteria-moncada-abreu https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-luis-robert-white-sox-deal-20170520-story.html https://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/white-sox/ct-luis-robert-white-sox-deal-20170520-story.html https://www.mlb.com/news/white-sox-jose-abreu-to-advise-luis-robert-c232938720 https://www.lavidabaseball.com/cuban-luis-robert-nears-majors/ https://whitesoxpride.mlblogs.com/the-word-on-luis-robert-3cac96c3b67e Abreu has been very involved with Moncada and Robert since day 1. Eloy too. BTW I'm not talking about the Robert extension I'm talking about his original signing and continued mentoring.

So you are going to ignore his influence in the Robert signing but will give him credit for helping us sign an older complete unknown entity ?

Every team will get a good look at him before he signs when he does a showcase. Until then we have no idea how good is he or if he's worth signing.

One 37 yr old playing DH is enough .Adding a soon to be 39 yr old expecting him to play 2nd base and OF coming off a terrible season would be really pushing your luck.

Let's take the best case scenario for Collins and Mazara without EE since that's what you preferred. In order for Collins to play and produce, he likely gets the majority AB at DH against RHP pitching, Maybe you'd argue it would be Grandal but if McCann is starting at C it'll be mostly when there's a LH starter on the mound so Grandal gets the DH AB's against lefties When a RH starter is pitching Grandal is the starting C . So to not overexpose McCann against righties you give Collins a lot of AB's against RH starters at DH or at least a lot more than McCann. Again best case scenario is a productive Collins hitting HR's, getting on base, being the strong side DH the whole season because Grandal will be catching an awful lot. Probably around 475-500 AB's for Collins the whole year. Best case scenario for Mazara is he breaks out hit's, 35 HR's .850+ OPS give you adequate D as a strong side platoon and gets 550 AB's. RF last year had a 44 sOPS+ last year, the lowest of any position on the team. A normal replacement level year gives you a 99 sOPS+ from Mazara . A breakout season has the potential for the Mazara trade to be the biggest upgrade the Sox make for 2020 and a normal year still is a big upgrade. So the max difference in AB's is likely around 75 AB's between Collins and Mazara in the best case without EE scenario . So basically one being a "starter" and one being a platoon DH means little. I think the potential downside with EE is much higher because of his age. He also has been very consistent but mother nature will win eventually and it's coming soon just not too soon we hope. That means you pretty much ignore his age which ignores the downside . You also ignore the age of Mazara which ignores the upside so how can one get a B+ while the other one gets a D ? Upside is better than downside isn't it ?

The asking price on McCann can't be way high simply because this is his final year with the Sox and he's had 1 good year in his career and that was last year after being non tendered, He also grades out as pretty poor in pitch framing. Traditional type catcher things like calling a good game and game prep alone don't get you very far. As many will say he's worth more to the Sox.

This is how I see it. I have the same opinion as BDB about the EE signing. I liked the rotating catcher DH thing to get Collins AB's but still like the EE signing because I understand it and though pretty damn old we can hope he doesn't fall off dramatically. I put Mazara in the same boat as Collins, which some would call a rebuilding move. But it's really not . All teams even contending teams work young players into the lineup. The problem is we are coming out of the rebuild and trying to get good so we want as many good players as possible but that doesn't mean we abandon all youth and shouldn't search for upside. Those 2 things should be a constant search no matter your position. Is Robert a rebuild move ? Yes. Madrigal ? Kopech, Cease, Lopez ? Yes they all are. But we are all hoping they are big upgrades to the production last year in CF, 2nd base and rotation.. We already know or are pretty sure that if Mazara and EE have their normal years they are a huge upgrade for RF and DH with the potential for a lot more .For Mazara even if you have to squint to see the upsid to hit 40 HR's at least you still see it. To give the move a D you are wearing blinders and you are still pretty likely to get 20 and .800 OPS as long as they don't over expose him to LHP . Fly ball LHP OK, GB LHP not OK.

Found those on youtube where you can just copy and paste the url and it works. Can't do that on MLB Network site or even NBCSN.

Yea you never know and everyone posts far less reliable twitter sources just for kicks . So there's no harm in posting a guy like Fake Cishek. If you want to think he's legit, great. If you think he isn't, great too. Discussing whether or not you think he is legit doesn't change the fact that you won't ever know for sure. He stays on top of things re: the White Sox so it's all good.

You posted in another thread called "White Sox future outlook" . I think any national news from MLB Network and other sources or evaluation of current and future Sox players should go there.I've been posting videos there .