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All signs don't point to him being guilty as much as I thought he was. The text messages on her phone points to her definitely being a cheater. Her mother disappearing and never being found in a similar fashion. Then there is also that letter stating she was spotted in Kentucky with some guy.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jan 20, 2008 -> 04:11 PM) Let's just say that it has to do with both guy nice like being disciplined and yelled at by their current coaches. Odds are one will transfer next year to the others school. I'm guessing Richmond transfers to Warren, but time will tell. I don't think Richmond will transfer. Didn't he already transfer just prior to this year?

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Jan 18, 2008 -> 03:21 AM) Supposedly you can hear this at the way end of the movie. http://boomp3.com/m/bd034dfca370 Leaves it open for a sequel? I don't think there will be a sequel IMHO. It loses its spice.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 18, 2008 -> 02:29 AM) You can tell me. How close were my speculatives here in this thread? Ain't it cool guy is the closest, but he does kind of overhype it. It doesn't look at all like a Turtle to me and I don't remember Slusho being mentioned at all.

QUOTE(knightni @ Jan 18, 2008 -> 02:04 AM) Did it seem as short as the 1 hour 25 minutes was? Not really. I'm not saying that as a bad thing, but the movie seemed like the perfect length. I was just annoyed by this one girl and her boyfriend who was taking shots of whiskey in the bathroom and came back for the last 25 minutes and was just talking up a storm. The first 20 minutes are slow, but then after that, it's non-stop action. The movie ends abrupt, but that's a perfect ending since it's a first POV movie. As far as the camera bobbling, it had to happen. Either a camcorder or a tv news report with bobbling cameras was going to happen. It also makes you feel the effects more. There's comedic relief too. Also, you're going to have a ton of questions when you leave the movie too.

Just got back from 12 oclock show. One friend didn't like it at all, another friend gave it a 6(apparently he says thats good), and I give it a solid 7.

QUOTE(Middle Buffalo @ Jan 5, 2008 -> 05:50 PM) I would bet Kevin Federline's considerable fortune that Britney has some manic-depressive issues. I actually feel really sad for her. And I'm pretty heartless when it comes to celebs. That would've been my guess.

Too many people are underrating Crede's defense. Fields should be in LF or in the minors developing 3B defensive skills.

Gio DLS No one else has a chance.

Why does everyone seemingly make fun of the towel drill?

Hopefully he didn't end up changing his mechanics like the Cubs wanted him to. His mechanics were great as it is. Cubs doctor's were terrible at evaluating injuries though.

QUOTE(bschmaranz @ Dec 19, 2007 -> 10:34 PM) I agree with that statement, but what makes Schilling that guy? Better yet, what's better? Talking trash about a guy who did steroids or campaigning for a cokehead? Well if Schilling is a guy who made his whole career the honest way, what doesn't give him the right to be that guy? The only difference between other guys who didn't do it and Schilling is that he actually has the balls to call out Clemens.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 06:00 PM) So I don't know what or who the first sentence refers to, and the second one obviously can't be directed at me, since I've told you more than once that I'm not saying that Clemens didn't use and you wouldn't be so ridiculous as to keep attaching to me a position that I renounce every single time you mention it -- right? So maybe you quoted the wrong post. You claimed Clemens' evidence is off of hearsay. I'm saying, technically you could say Bonds' is off of hearsay too. Only difference between Clemens and Bonds is Clemens didn't say he took it by accident. And he's just speaking through his lawyer. At least Barry had the balls to speak to people on his own.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 15, 2007 -> 11:48 AM) All I know about is the affadavit with blacked out names -- if there are other documents that name Clemens, please provide a link to back that up. There was a report that Clemens' was one of the names in the affadavit, but the next day a US attorney stated that the report had a number of errors (without stating what the errors were). Now, it wouldn't surprise me if Grimsley named Clemens, since we know Grimsley was linked to McNamee. But until we know that he is named, and how Grimsley knew he was a user, we can't say the evidence is as strong. Both are off of hearsay technically. Again, if Roger steroid/hgh use isn't true, why hasn't a lawsuit even been mentioned yet?

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 07:49 PM) What are the documents that were "found in Jason Grimsley's house"? I haven't heard about these. For f***'s sake, learn how to read. I did NOT say the evidence is "not enough". In fact, I said THAT I DO BELIEVE IT. That doesn't mean that there's just as much evidence. And when there's an allegation made by federal prosecutors about evidence that was shown to a grand jury -- I tend to believe the evidence exists, yes. Documents found in Grimsley's house is how the feds got a list of people of who were on the 'roids. Grimsley coughed up the names as well IIRC. Clemens' name appears on the affadavit too I believe. Along with being injected personally by Mac several times, I don't know how people go ahead and say there's not as much evidence on him as Bonds. Ok, Bonds got big. So what? If the person is on the skinny side and used roids, there's less evidence that he took them? As far as I'm concerned, Tim Kurkjan has it right. If Clemens wants to say it's not true, then to save face and get voted into the HOF on the first ballot, he should sue, but we know he won't.

QUOTE(jackie hayes @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 05:56 PM) This is hyperbole. The two biggest pieces of evidence against Bonds, in my mind, are his grand jury admission that he took the stuff (unknowingly, he claims) and the allegation that there are documents stating that he failed a steroid test years before that. We have neither for Clemens. Which isn't to say he didn't do it. I think he probably did. His is kind of a middling example of the Mitchell report cases -- not as much evidence as for those who wrote large checks to Radomski, but much more than the very weak cases against Roberts and Cust. So an allegation that there are documents against Bonds is good enough, but documents found in Jason Grimsley's house, and his personal trainer's admission to even injecting Clemens several times is not??? Wow. I can't greater double standard.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 05:18 PM) now i know the report didnt turn up a whole lot of entirely credible evidence, but its a joke the way espn and other reporters are completely denying that the events in the mitchell report are unsubstantiated...the entire goddamn MLBPA is corrupt....they cheated, everyone knows it, everyone knew it, but now because nobody was willing to talk to the mitchell report its like espn is trying to construe this as...oh well we dont know if clemens took steroids still....WTF!?!? my ass we don't...how much clearer do we really have to make it?! ugh sorry just got so fed up reading stark and gammons b**** about the report was inconclusive mud slinging....mud deserves to be slung! these guys cheated... and no matter how much frank thomas says that somewhat clears his name..somewhere along the lines in history people will question him, and thats bull cuz he was probably clean and A holes like clemens and bonds have ruined it for guys like big frank Exactly my point. People think guys like McNamee lied to protect himself. If he's told to tell the truth, he's telling the truth. All Mitchell can do is write what is said. How much clearer does it have to be seen for a guy like Clemens? I swear, I think some people on Soxtalk want video evidence of a needle going in his ass, with him showing a picture ID. Even then, I think people will say the video is digital like with R. Kelly. Bonds is guilty, but yet we have no more proof on him than we have on Clemens. Hell, I'd say you cold argue, you have more detail with Clemens.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 03:46 PM) How would it make "too much" sense? Low risk, very high reward. Sox need some type of insurance, at least as a stopgap starting pitcher. I feel more confident in Prior than Floyd honestly. He'll come cheaply, and from a PR standpoint, it can't hurt, especially if he does good.

QUOTE(rcpweiner @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 05:28 PM) From Rotoworld: That can't make you feel happy, knowing we had 2 of the pieces in our system. Eh those two guys are somewhat throw-ins. I mean, they're pretty decent throw-ins, but we have no Carlos Gonzalez in our system.

Alot more people did it without a doubt. They just went different/"smarter" routes of obtaining such. And why are we applauding players for doing what is legal? That should be the norm. That's like having a child and then arguing about how you put food on the table for that child and clothe him. Well, duh, that's what you're supposed to do!

QUOTE(iamshack @ Dec 14, 2007 -> 01:40 PM) No, I understand the distinction you are making. Clearly, McNamee claiming he shot up Clemens himself is different than Bigbie stating he heard Roberts and Cust claim they once tried steroids. That being said, I still don't think it's the strongest of evidence. And it further colors his comments that he agreed to a plea agreement which exonerates him from any charges as long as he is "truthful." Do we not think that the Federal Government knew he was involved with Clemens and Petitte? They clearly agreed to not charge him with the goal of getting him to implicate Clemens and Petitte in performance-enhancing drug usage. What reason would he have to lie? Mitchell said it himself, everyone who was interviewed was asked to tell the whole truth and one of the conditions for him is to tell nothing but the truth. If none of his clients used steroids, then don't say they did. He had to be 100% truthful or he could get thrown in jail. I don't think they were going, "hmm, that Roger Clemens fellow, I don't like. Let's speak to his trainer and get him to implicate Roger". Mitchell also asked that no one exagerate the truth and make a hyperbole out of it. He also didn't want anyone to tell only half of what they knew. McNamee getting into detail about shooting up Clemens himself is pretty good evidence if you ask me.

Move would make too much sense for the White Sox, so it won't happen.

Is it possible for someone to make a transcript of the question and answer portion at Soxfest this year? It could get really entertaining.

I hope more big names are added. Nothing besides Pujols makes me go awe. I mean, Pettite kind of surprises me, but the rest is a list that a casual fan wouldn't care about.

I'd still sign Prior right now. His value has nowhere to go but up.