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QUOTE(knightni @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 09:07 PM) Disney will miss Pixar. I think that will end up being the case as well. I saw Derailed this weekend. Started slow, but I wasn't dissapointed at all. I ended up loving it.

One of the only things I liked about the Bears win is their orange jerseys. They looked really nice. I wish they would get orange pants and mix those with the white jerseys or blue jerseys once in a while. I also wish they wore more of that blue jersey and blue pants combo.

QUOTE(EvilMonkey @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 06:55 PM) We also seem to have a surplus of pitchers, and several more in the minors that can be of trade value. PLus, more teams are looking for pitching, so we may be able to get a premium for some of ours. Has Garland's stock even been higher? Don't get me wrong, I like Johnny, but for the right player, I think we could replace him. Do we have any guys who are ready to replace Garland in the rotation? No. Do we have any guys who are ready to replace Rowand? Yes.

Where'd you get this info?

R.I.P. He was one of my favorite wrestler's. I bet it was from 'Roids though. Vince McMahon(according to Rowdy Roddy Piper) made some guys take them.

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Nov 13, 2005 -> 01:29 PM) What was the previous record for missed FG return? I think 103 by Chris McCallister with Baltimore. IIRC, he's the only other guy to do it in history.

Oh, and XBOX is going to be $300 not $400 IIRC.

QUOTE(Iwritecode @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 06:13 PM) Or just wait 6 months and the price will be down $100... I won't go down $100 in price til at least after a year it's release, depending on when the PS3 is released.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 10:18 PM) I'd rather keep Ozuna as our utility infielder for next to nothing than pay Graffanino a lot more money. Also, we have absolutely no need for Paul Byrd. Correct and correct.

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 04:54 PM) PTI is the only thing I watch on ESPN. Me too. Even though I know this would never happen, Comcast should try to buy the programming rights to PTI. Kornheiser and Wilbon are the only good thing to watch on ESPN nowadays.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) I wouldn't say it's so cut and dry that he won't trade one of the 5 starters. I know that many disagree with me on this point, but I think there's a chance that KW will trade either Contreras, Garcia, or Garland this offseason if the offer is something he can't refuse. It's HIGHLY unlikely the Sox would be able to afford both Garland and Contreras after this upcoming season. Their value will likely never be higher, so I don't think KW should just say no chance in hell. Everyone here knows that I would be willing to trade Contreras for a marquee hitter like Dunn or Teixeira. You and Kenny are two different people. I doubt he trades any of our pitching unless it's Garland for Delgado straight up and they pay all of Delgado's contract along with Garland's.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:46 PM) There are going to be a ton of teams in the Delgado sweepstakes if he's available at such a cheap price. Teams like the Dodgers, Orioles, Red Sox, etc. will definitely be interested. Hell, are we even sure he wants to play in Chicago? I know he turned down the Sox last year (even though I know things have changed). I guess all this debate is what we deserve arguing about something that Mr. Zero, Bruce Levine, said. There's going to be tons of teams inquiring about him, but there aren't many teams willing to take on his contract. I don't see Boston taking on his contract unless they are able to trade Manny. I also don't think Boston wants to give up top prospects. I think they rather look at SP. Dodgers desperately need to get pitching. They're in no position to trade for Delgado. They also don't have much to give up in terms of prospects. Orioles? They want pitching too. I don't think they're willing to spend cash on upgrading their offense considering it was pretty good last year. He turned down the Sox because he knew he was going to be a FA so he didn't want to bother moving to a city, just so he could move 5 months later to another one. He didn't want to go through the process.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:42 PM) Did I miss Patterson sign a new contract? Last I heard, he's still a financially cheap option. If the Marlins do trade Delgado, they're definitely going to try and get a MLB caliber starting pitcher in the deal. You missed that the Marlins aren't trying to take on extra contracts. They have no need for Patterson which is why he wouldn't be included in a deal unless you're talking about Eric Patterson who would be a viable option to replace Alex Gonzalez.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:40 PM) If the Marlins GM ends up trading Delgado and Pierre for Rich Hill, Rowand, Marte, and Rogo......then he should win the award for worse executive ever. Hell, maybe we can throw in Vizcaino in the deal, and get Miguel Cabrera! You didn't answer the question. And BTW, they are trying to shed payroll. Rowand is better than Pierre. Hill is a good pitching prospect who some think is the next Barry Zito which would work in Miami. Marte still is a decent RP, despite him being our worst reliever. Rogo also is a pretty good 1B prospect, but I just threw him in as a prospect. They might want Sean Tracey instead. But it won't take one of our 6 SP's.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:37 PM) Any Pierre deal to the Cubs will almost definitely include Patterson in it. Patterson's contact you mention? I've never heard anyone mention anything about it be a problem. I guarantee you that they could get a MUCH better deal for Delgado than 3 players like the ones mentioned. Oh really? Enlighten me as who they could get that would equal that package? Keep in mind that the team has to be willing to take that contract(at least 13 mil). The only way any deal with Pierre includes Patterson is if Lowell is thrown in. The Marlins don't want to take on more contracts than they have to.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) Patterson will also be included in any Pierre deal, and he'll be their CF. Rowand, Marte, and Rogo are not enough to get Delgado, let alone have the Marlins pay some of his contract. Don't forget that the Marlins love Contreras and that they think he'd be a hit with the Cubans by playing in Florida. Patterson wouldn't have to be included. In fact, the Marlins would prefer his contract to be kept out of any potential deal. Hill would be the guy in the deal. We fill two of their needs and give them a 1B prospect who could fill the hole in 2 years. So basically, we're giving them what they need(not luxuries) for a guy they need to get rid of because of his big contract. I don't think Contreras is needed in the deal at all.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:30 PM) No way in hell is Crede worth $3.5 million, even though you are probably right in what he will get. But, when Borass is the agent, we will be ripped in arbitration. He'll get no more than 2.5 million.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:27 PM) I estimated the amounts for these players: Pierz: $4 Crede: $3.5 Gload: $400K Harris: $400K Viz: $1.5 BMac: $400K Cotts: $400K Jenks: $350K Garland: $7 Anderson: $350K Kong: $13M +Delgado: $13.5 The team payroll came out to $100.325M then you could subtract Rowand and Marte's salaries A lot of the $400K players could be less next season. Crede will get 2.5 max. He won't jump up 3 million from his current contract, I can guarentee that. Garland will receive 6.5 IMHO.

QUOTE(fathom @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:25 PM) Um, are some people forgetting what we'd have to give up to get Delgado? It would probably cost the Sox Contreras, and put us without a 5th starter again. I don't think so. The Cubs, even though the Marlins want Pie, will most likely give up Rich Hill(a starter with lots of upside) for Pierre. That leaves the Marlins needing a CFer (Rowand). They also need relievers to bridge the gap between their starters and Todd Jones(assuming they resign him) which would be Damaso. Now we might have to throw in a prospect like Rogo, but I would be fine with that considering we would have Delgado and Kong.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:17 PM) Linkie for ESPN 1000: http://espnradio1000.com/ then go to listen live and I think other Local programming to listen. BTW, Levine is gone. Thanks. I'll use it now because there really isn't much on tv.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:13 PM) All that doesn't mean that Reinsdorf is going to raise the payroll that much. Without a salary dump of some sort, we would need a $100 million payroll to re-sign Konerko for market value and add Delgado via a trade. Unless we were to trade A-Row and Damaso of course. I love how Kenny keeps trying, but man, JR and company must be really happy about the WS and must want another if they're willing to open up the wallet that much, that quickly. BTW, anyone have a link for ESPN 1000.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:06 PM) Once again showing that Levine knows nothing. Levine needs to lay off the crack. He's been wrong countless times before. Did Reinsdorf just raise the payroll by $25 million or something? Yeah, I doubt this would happen. I really don't see it. I think Thomas will be our DH next year with PK or Delgado as our 1B. I doubt our payroll just got jacked up that high in just one season. Usually, that would happen the offseason after the year we won the World Series because the season after the WS season is when teams really reap the benefits of winning the championship.

QUOTE(South Side Fireworks Man @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:08 PM) If the Phillies were willing to trade Abreu for Wells, and it was the Jays who turned it down because of the salary, it means the Sox would have a good shot at Abreu for Aaron Rowand straight up if they were willing to take on the salary. I think it's worth it. I don't see Kenny doing it simply because his defense in CF would be a downgrade from Rowand's and we still would need a 1B with a big bat if this were to happen(assuming PK is traded).

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) If it means anything, Levine was on 1000 and said KW was giddy because teams were willing to talk trade already and Levine says the Sox can afford Delgado and Konerko without a salary dump of sorts. BOTH??

QUOTE(Felix @ Nov 11, 2005 -> 08:45 PM) One injury can be one too many, especially at his age. You could say that about anyone at any age. I could understand if he was injured for 3 straight years with the same injury, but he hasn't been. The basis for calling him injury prone is non-existant.