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QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:04 PM) Vince Young is not an NFL QB. Leinart is not very highly regarded among all NFL scouts, as some think he's a product of the USC offense. Vince Young most definately is an NFL QB. He has as much if not more poise than Orton. The guy is a double threat. Great arm strength and accuracy is supposed to be his weakness, but even that is not as bad as Vick's. Young is a gamechanger who adds a different dimension to his team. He's most definately an NFL QB. I could understand if you don't like the running QB mold, but Young will be a stud. Leinart would be really good running a pro-style offense. At first, I thought he simply was a product of his system, but there's a reason that if he came out this past year he would've been the #1 pick in the NFL. The right scouts obviously think highly of him.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 07:02 PM) Yes it does. We still have a dominating starting rotation and solid bullpen. If that's a dominating Starting Rotation, we're sure as hell in trouble.

This team doesn't need O-Lineman. They have enough already. Garza is really good at plowing guys to make holes for the run game. It seems that our team need to gel together better as a unit for the run blocking scheme. We don't need to waste a pick on that though. It needs offensive skilled position players. Give me a stud WR or TE or QB. Get Vince Young, Leinart or Cook if there a way to get either of them.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:59 PM) Here's the thing, after tonight, the first six batters in their lineup will have a batting average right at or above our leading hitter. And every single one of them has a better slugging percentage. The Indians have a good ability to win games two ways, we for the most part can win games only on the strength of our pitching. And that strength doesn't look so strong anymore.

QUOTE(santo=dorf @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:56 PM) And the Sox are playing .500 since August and the Indians have benn very good. What the f*** is your point? The still aren't in the lead, and still do not have control of the AL Central let alone the AL Wild card. Sheesh, my ignore lists grows more and more everyday with these obnoxious pessimists whom would rather be correct than see the Sox win. Give it a rest. No one said they rather see the Sox struggle. Well except for that one guy who said he rather not have us make the playoffs. We hate being right as well. You also have to understand that the pessimists have every right to be pessimistic as the optimists have to be optimistic. It swings both ways pal. It's bulls*** how everyone was making threads basically insulting teams that weren't even done yet with a good month and a half to go(some more than that).

10-0 and they're not even trying against a team we struggled against. 5.5 games, here we come. One way trip to Choke City. All aboard?!!

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:49 PM) I thought I was told not to worry, the Indians would cool off? They've now won 19 of their last 22 games. Don't worry, they'll cool off. They have too.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:48 PM) This is comical. We're in deep trouble unless this club finds its balls and reverts to its winning ways of September. Look at Cleveland--taking extra bases, having fun, hitting at all fields and not missing meatballs. Sounds like a certain team we knew from a few months ago. The Red Sox?

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) :headshake It's true. Ozzie has to be dead at the bottom when it comes to managerial decisions made.

QUOTE(fathom @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 06:40 PM) We've agreed to disagree on this. Don't think this last week of awful attendance didn't give JR every excuse possible to not raise payroll this offseason. Very true. I don't even think we raised 30,000 for any game in this series and I distinctly remember being told that we would definately see over 32,000 every game this series because it was a good club. Sox fans have stopped showing up for whatever reason. Not a great reason to raise payroll more than 5 million.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 05:52 PM) Kind of like Tony Pena. Another manager who motivated his team into a big lead, who crumbled at the end and wound up in third. Thank god we had such a lead. Yep. I've been saying that for some time. He should be a bench coach. Honestly, I rather take Baker over him. Baker knows how to manage talent. When he has none, he struggles(or injuries). Ozzie could have Manny Ramirez and he'll bench him every other day. Ozzie should just be a bench coach or go back to 3rd base. Gimme Dusty over him any day of the week. It's not like he has a bigger mouth than Ozzie. BTW, put me in Jenks' fanclub.

Told most of you guys that we shouldn't be making stupidass elimination threads, especially prematurely. Now it's going to look so f***ing stupid. Respect all teams until they're mathematically out of it. Something lots of Sox fans on here didn't do.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 05:42 PM) Yup I saw that too. If they collapse, a lot of people in the sox organization should be fired. They would of set this organization back a while. We will be a joke. That's why I think it was kind of premature to give Ozzie that 3 year deal. Wait until the whole season is over to see what he does. I've already said, I think Ozzie is a really crappy manager, but a great motivator and intangibles type of guy.

Duque should be the one piggybacking McCarthy, not the other way around.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) This is a bit off topic but I don't see a general NFL thread... How the Hell is San Francisco beating up on St. Louis? I don't know either. STL's offense was supposed to be great this year again with Kevin Curtis supposedly becoming the next Brandon Stokely. QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:19 PM) And then you're wrong again. You said Tillman had Moss the whole game when in fact Azumah had him man-on-man a few times when Moss was put in the slot. Azumah didn't look good today, it seems he's not fully back from his hip surgery. Azumah was put on him like 3 times today. Got burned once. Tillman was on him the rest of the game. Azumah's burnings came from Thrash for the most part.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:12 PM) WRONG. It was Azumah he beat. Moss set up in the slot on the right side, Azumah who was playing nickle today took him. Azumah was playing man coverage on Moss and never turned around to find the ball. Which resulted in a 52 yard completion. So Moss beat Azumah not Tillman. I'm not talking about a single play. I'm talking about throughout the game.

I heard about all of this. Very generous. He truly is a nice guy.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:06 PM) But Ozzie might interpret this as being able to play Timo since he practically plays as often as a starter For once this season, that wouldn't be a bad thing.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 03:51 PM) Eaten alive by Santana Moss? The only catch Moss had that really hurt us was when he beat Azumah not Tillman. With Tillman on him he had 3 catches for 44 yards not exactly amazing numbers. Not eaten alive. Just eaten. And Azumah got burned by Thrash today, not Moss. Tillman was on Moss throughout the whole game.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:03 PM) Per the game thread. Ozzie in the post game conference was asked if he was going to regroup tomorrow to get ready for the next road trip. His answer is that he is going to leave chicago to go to Miami tomorrow because he needs a day off from the city of chicago to mentally regroup. I don't blame him. I would too. This team is a mess. Him, K-Dub and the rest of the team need to have a meeting big time. Play all the subs on Tuesday. Send a message to this f'n team.

QUOTE(Yoda @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 04:00 PM) Why even make a thread knowing that there are many optimistic people out there who are just going to come in here and say that the Sox are a-okay. BTW, The f*** with El Duque’s 9-2 Post season record. I agree.

Well I doubt this guy is making it up. If he is, this is a very crappy post.

Wow. You have many posts, so I'll take your word on it. That's crazy.

Why are we wasting Cotts? Use Viz and call it a day. Look at those sleeping fans. Today's not a good day if you're a Chicago Sports fan.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Sep 11, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) Yes and that becomes a problem when the offense scores a lot. But when all you give up is 9 points that means your defense did one hell of a job. Especially since they forced 2 turnovers and we got a 3rd on special teams. It means your zone defense hunkered down. That's all. They owned the time of possession and field position as one said earlier. And this was against a mediocre offense again. That's not good. I'll post my thoughts on this game: Oh, and Charles Tillman is easily the most overrated Bear. He's still living off those Randy Moss games. Guess what, Randy isn't in their division anymore. He was getting eaten today by Santana Moss. Vasher, however, is a real CB in the league. Potential PBer.