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There goes the "they are hamstrung" theory

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 04:14 PM) If we found out later that the Cubs had offered Jimenez and Cease for Quintana and Hahn turned it down, Soxtalk would have burned to the ground. I haven't seen a trade that made so much sense for both sides since December, when the White Sox traded Chris Sale to Boston. Yes that would have been me.

Ugh just get on with it

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 02:58 PM) So basically, they are getting Yrizarri for, uhh, free, I guess? We could have used it but only on 300k chunks. But because of Robert uncertainty it seems we did not have many deals in place. The late start may have led to them realizing there aren't 10 300k guys left and just traded a sum toward the rangers otano fund. This was good though, guy seems better than what we sent to oriole's.

QUOTE (Quin @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 01:13 PM) Yeah, really don't care about the Cubs winning the World Series. It happened and isn't special anymore. Now, if Q pitches like he does and somehow turns in a HOF career and gets his number retired on the North Side, I'll be a bit bitter (but still very happy for Q). If Eloy turns in a HOF career on the South Side and Cease is an All-Star, I won't care at all. My ideal world still sees us bringing back Q in the Lester role in 3 years, the savvy vet to lead a young team to playoff glory. I could totally see Q being the next Bartolo colon

I mean if you are looking for future hall of gamers maybe the last 15 years of top 5 picks were disappointing but I can think of more than 4 really good players in that span and they are some of best in league.

I'm gonna go with Sox didn't like the pick em players they were given and deal isn't as close as thought

We just paid 50 mill to get Robert so yeah, for pandas contract I want Devers.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 10:53 AM) I see very little reason to bring Moncada up right now. Main reason is I have tickets Tuesday so it'd be nice.

Less exciting

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 09:28 AM) There is no way that the White Sox were ever going to get a better offer than this for Quintana. It is literally a step below the package that Sale returned. Milwaukee could have topped this deal, but it would have been to the point where they'd be sacrificing their system, and they aren't at that phase in their rebuild. It's probably safe to take the tin foil hat off. I didn't think we'd get a top 10 prospect for Q and I f we did I didn't expect to follow it up with a top 80 pitcher.

Kenny did do well for a while when he exploited that average proven vet production was more valuable than c+/b prospects. But we got destroyed when the players decline started happening earlier post steroids. Suddenly our bad farm could only net players well on way to decline. Sox have been such a weird team. Our weak links have been awful, season destroying bad. But we had teams built for short series that could never come close to getting there.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 09:03 AM) Dude, I still remember where I was when that trade went down and couldn't believe that's all we got. Did we simply refuse to eat any money on his contract? I forgot why the return was ultimately such garbage. I mean, according to moneyball he's like literally all we asked for. I remember reading it across the scroll too and then expecting Adkins to be some awesome player. Looked up his stats and was like Whaaaaa

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 06:43 AM) Skoug is defying logic, still has a BABIP of 1.000 after 15 plate appearances. You think he can keep it up? If he does I'm not as worried about 50% k rate

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 08:58 AM) That still is disgusting Singleton for Harris made up for it. Not really in production but in entertainment.

Remember when all we got for Ray Durham was Jon Adkins?

I really like the write ups on Ockimey. Between him, Hickman, sheets, and someone like Skoug, some good 1b bats. Was kinda crazy we couldn't even develop good bats with no position but 1b in our minors since Carter.

Not done but this is legit tradewatch. Reminds me of pre Samarj trade.

QUOTE (beautox @ Jul 15, 2017 -> 01:39 AM) If true thats a solid return for todd, originally i had him being moved for Swihart + Bell, but seeing the direction the sox have been heading i felt Ockimey & Beeks made a lot of sense Hernandez fits a similar spot to Beeks. Jalen has gotten some helium recently and he is major league ready depth and left handed so i can understand boston's reluctance to trading him. Chavis is finally putting it all together and was ranked #96 by BA in their mid season. Only way I could see him and Groome coming back is if Boston wanted financial assistance by Hahn taking on half of Sandoval's deal. Ockimey's profile Hernandez's profile Lozada's profile Thank you for pulling this. Like this return.

I don't like the tone of that Celtic crossing tweet. Boston was one of those teams bro

QUOTE (flavum @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:36 PM) Never heard of him until now. Nice stats. You really think the Sox could get him for a rent a player? Yeah. He's not highly touted. He was their #27 prospect in a weak system. I'd be happy though if we got him and chavis.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:34 PM) What could the Cubs give up for Gray though? They must have a bottom five system at this point. It would have to be Happ, Baez, or Schwarber. The As are so weird. Def Schwarber.

QUOTE (NCsoxfan @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:32 PM) What's everyone thinking for return? A top 7-10 prospect in Boston's system and a top 15-20? Probably. Maybe more.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:22 PM) Well done thought I corrected in time.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jul 14, 2017 -> 09:10 PM) Probably reading the bottom half is a good idea It's pretty barren according to longenhagens FV. Would love Chavis though.