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QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:24 PM) I'll just go with the notion that there are no sure things in these types of trades. I wanted near ready position players, so the Sox didn't have to develop them. That's totally reasonable, those supplements will bet top 75 and much less sure things

QUOTE (fathom @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:22 PM) Wanted a sure thing offensive player. Package isn't bad though compared to what Braves would give I hear you but Robles would be at that level soon.

Rabbit alluded to this on twitter but what I most regret about it veering away from Red Sox were the devers/kopech/Rodriguez pieces that made it a strong deal up and down. Excited about severino/ etc but much less so.

QUOTE (Chicago White Sox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 09:10 PM) Hahn should tell the Red Sox & Astros the door closes by midnight. Don't give them or the Nationals time to consider other alternatives. Pressure Boston or Houston to top Washington in the next few hours or I say accept this Giolito/Robles offer. Nah, pressure is on Nats to close not Sox. If turner was available it would be different.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 07:38 PM) No. Probably can get Conforto + for Jones. Mets have really soured on him. Right. Has any team done more to ruin a players value? I'd love to get Conforto.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 07:31 PM) Buster Olney said that the Sox asking price in July from Boston was Betts, Benintendi, and prospects lol Exactly. Maybe the reason talks didn't progress is because that isn't serious.

Is Conforto worth both?

Josh is great and the twitter rant was warranted. Sox front office has not deserved benefit of doubt and the incoherence of a their actions means we put more importance on their words.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:21 PM) That was a foreword by Ken Williams PTATC is going to come out of nowhere to say "UNBELIEVABLE"

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 05:16 PM) Who's tweeted it? Merkin. https://twitter.com/scottmerkin

How good is the James Shields chapter? Pretty good?

I know this tweet means nothing on the otherhand I would prefer TRADE IMMINENT STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING AND ONLY REFRESH TWITTER.

QUOTE (BigHurt3515 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:11 PM) We have officially booked the Ocean Riviera Paradise (opens in 10 days). Now for excursions, what should we do? We already want to visit the ruins but would like to do one or two other things if one is a half day type thing We didn't plan anything for ours and for the most part valued the doing nothing on the beach time to the seeing ruins (tulum ruins excluded, those were great). You'll be exhausted, take time to just be lazy as hell in the beautiful weather.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:20 PM) My guess is that he wasn't told he has to trade specific players. Ha, so we have two interpretrations. I guess that's a classic Hahn quote.

QUOTE (WhiteSoxLifer @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:03 PM) Rick Hahn said there is no direct order to the teams trading plan. He did confirm that they have been very active in trade talks https://twitter.com/MLBBruceLevine/status/805893590090190848 Confused if order means "which piece goes first" or order as in there was no top-down directive given to rebuild.

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 04:02 PM) Benintendi was gone when the Sox drafted in 15. Turner would have been a major reach for them in 14 - plus, Rodon looks just fine. He's talking about trading for them.

QUOTE (scs787 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 03:59 PM) 2017= this off-season?? 2017 offseason, so following next year.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 03:43 PM) I've got just the relief pitcher the Mets need in mind... I'm gonna guess they save that bullet for Wade Davis, doubt they pull it for Robertson. Maybe Jones.

Sale is incredibly valuable and will be a big addition to any team. But I would like us all to acknowledge that it is a huge risk to trade away 5s and 6s of your top prospect talent even if they don't make an impact like Sale because it: - Means you have to pay top dollar for veteran talent (sox know this fails often) - Means you have very little to supplement in case of injuries on your must-win-now teams If Sox offered sale for same price as Chapman last year they could easily get it. These packages (giolito, robles, and much more) are huge by any standard. There's a reason we thought Sale was too valuable to trade, and that at some point the guaranteed 5 win starting pitcher still is not worth removing all of your cheap talent even if none of them turn out as stars. Doesn't mean we shouldn't hold out for a turner, just saying those teams are not acting irrationally by not offering everything they have. There's also a reason why we are focusing on only a handful of teams that have multiple top 100 talents and multiple top 20 talents.

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 03:25 PM) On a side note, per my review of Twitter, Mets fans have surpassed Cardinal fans as the most prolific purveyors giving up aging spare parts for in their prime major league players. Who could say no to Jay Bruce and Granderson for Eaton and Robertson? Yeah I feel bad for them though. Tough spot. They are gonna be crushed when it's Conforto who gets traded for a relief pitcher.

Guys I know it's poor form to talk about a high draft pick that made majors early and performed pretty well but I would totally take Turner over him knowing what we know now. But not sad about Rodon.

Guys, this may change our rebuild plan

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:53 PM) The kid hit .342 with power and speed in 100 games. Of course his value is inflated now. If he sustains those numbers he should have gone #1. I wouldn't bet on that, although I still think he will be a great player. Rodon looks like he will be a top of the rotation guy. A solid pick at #3. Yeah Rodon is fine, he's in the majors! But as a white sox fan who've watched garbage position players it hurts to see players like Turner selected behind you. Helps to see players like Alex Jackson though.

QUOTE (bjm676 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:51 PM) Ken Rosenthal ‏@Ken_Rosenthal 33s33 seconds ago Sources: #Nationals more focused on Sale than Cutch. #WhiteSox likely would get Robles, Giolito, much more. No indication deal is close. Just want to say that deal pieces leaking out is v. good news to me. Way too much who is not involved. You don't bid over who is not involved, you bid over who IS. Love hot stove talk.

QUOTE (bighurt574 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:50 PM) The guy drafted #4 right after Rodon is pretty good too. Should probably wait a few more years to make judgments about that draft class.... 2014/2015 drafts look like we are about to enter a decade of very awesome baseball.