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QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:37 PM) Personally I hope this is the case. Maybe if Houston or Boston see this talk the give in and include their star prospect to move ahead of Washington? Who knows. We do know that the Sox have worked well with both Houston and Dombrowski in the past. Yeah, one thing I'm keeping in mind is all of Boston/Houston/Washington have huge incentive to leak to media that their untouchable is not available, they don't want to be in that bidding war when the Sox call and say "HOU just offered Bregman, do you want an opportunity to top it?"

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 02:32 PM) I believe he said it on MLBN a little while ago Ah, thanks.

FWIW last Joel Sherman comment on Sale:

I follow Sherman and I don't really recall him ever saying that. Yesterday he said sox don't perceive Boston/LA as major players for sale but Washington was trying but holding back on Turner. Nothing recent has been communicated from him re: Sale.

I'm pretty sure If I'm Rizzo I take the risk of an outfield with Trout and Bryce Harper in it.

Eh, I eat lunch places more than any other restaurant (because I'm lazy). I have always really loved Freshii and people think it's gross, so I hear ya.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:46 PM) Always has been.. Have you been to the newer Panera's yet? Theyve come a long way. Food is fresher and healthier and you can order quickly The only panera is so far from my office, and I have a stupid corner bakery right on the corner that seduces me when I just want soup. And boy is their soup garbage.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:44 PM) Rizzo "Give me Adam" is way beyond a throw in to help offset a deal haha, it's a completely different trade negotiation. Eaton is under contract for what amounts to pennies: 2017 28 Chicago White Sox $4,000,000 4.030 2018 29 Chicago White Sox $6,000,000 2019 30 Chicago White Sox $8,400,000 2020 31 Chicago White Sox *$9,500,000 $9.5M Team Option, $1.5M Buyout 2021 32 Chicago White Sox *$10,500,000 $10.5M Team Option, $1.5M Buyout Earliest Free Agent: 2020 He is in his prime as well. Eaton would like require Giolito and Robles (I've read internally the Nationals consider Lopez to have surpassed Giolito in the pecking order) Right, and Turner is a near superstar level player that your best pitcher in AL on cost friendly deal couldn't land.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:39 PM) I think it goes a little something like this: Hahn - "Mike, you can offer Giolito and Robles all day long, but I've got to have Turner." Rizzo - "If I'm giving up Turner, I can't give you Giolito OR Robles...and I'm not even sure I can get a sign off on Turner, to be honest." Hahn - "You know our suite #, Mike." Rizzo - "Rick, you've got to help me offset Turner if I'm going to move him..." Hahn - "What about Melky?" Rizzo - "Come on Rick. I need someone who will be here for at least a couple years. Give me Adam." Hahn - Eaton is not off the table, but then I'm going to need Turner and your top 3-4 guys, Mike." I agree with this. but the white sox would be choosing to get a single high impact player over using Eaton to build depth. Some may oppose that and i understand why, but acquiring Turner, Giolito, Robles, and more is worth it. You can still try your damndest to turn around your scouting in next two years and trade some excess chaff for davidson level gambles.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:36 PM) With the strides Anderson has made every year at short, I wouldn't even think about about moving him around. I wouldn't normally, but I'd do whatever trea turner wants honestly.

QUOTE (Ro Da Don @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:32 PM) We've discussed this regarding Bregman, if we were able to pry Turner from DC, does he play CF for us? 2B? SS? If that is our problem that is the best white sox problem I've seen in a while. I think keep him in CF or move anderson.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:28 PM) I was just posturing what it would take for a team to acquire both Sale and Eaton HUGE doubts that any team would be able to stomach the return it would take Yes it's doubtful. Discussed earlier how I thought Eaton could justify Giolito Robles themselves. However, I will say it depends on how much your scouts think of turner. If this truly is an opportunity to get a talent like that unlikely to be matched, maybe you do spend more.

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:59 PM) oh, unsupported speculation I just read: That would be amazing.

QUOTE (steveno89 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:23 PM) Sale AND Eaton would require an absolutely enormous package going back to the White Sox It's pretty insane to think about, but you're talking about 11 WAR per season being dealt It would absolutely have to start with Turner, followed closely by Giolito, Robles, Ross, Lopez, Fedde, Kieboom I'm not even certain that is enough for two all star players under cheap control Sale would return: Turner, Ross, Robles, Kieboom + Sale would return: Turner, Ross, Robles, Kieboom + Eaton would return: Giolito, Lopez, Fedde + I don't think there is a team in baseball with the farm system to trade for both Eaton and Sale. It would more than gut any system, any team would be setting their minor league depth back 5 years Pretty clear this isn't true.

QUOTE (SoxPride18 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 01:09 PM) Seems like an ace to go after for a rebuild Maybe, but also seems like a player to draw attention to a middling franchise. Let him play 2 ways, and let the team build up to 2019. Otani succeeding would put global eyes on white sox.

ooh, a fire tweet, get ready for the cold bucket of water. i'm guessing that'll come from Olney. I kid I kid, I love this stuff!

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:34 PM) I didn't think it was brutal. Seemed pretty positive to me overall. Saying he may to hit the average outfielders production while not being good enough to man left field seems not good to me.

corner bakery is the worst.

QUOTE (Baron @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 12:05 PM) He specifically mentions no Robles in the McCutchen trade but then there's that sentence that I posted. Makes it seem they are trying to keep Turner and Robles then decimate the rest of their farm. It's not possible. The way that is written though reads that it is the writers inference that the Nationals pursuit of both at once makes it seem they can get both without giving up either. That is a stupid way to analyze.

I would be fine with ungodly sums to go to Otani if it meant the White Sox could sign him. I know, I know, will never happen. But man I hope a team that isn't the cubs/red sox/dodgers/yankees sign him.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:34 AM) would you throw up because of how confusing this post is? Obviously part of three team deal where Nats acquire sale, then use Sale to trade Sale to another team for prospects to acquire sale and then claim tampering to allow them to reacquire Sale.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:30 AM) I'd be okay with anyone who we think is a game changer. It does not have to be a QB, although we certainly would need to take a QB early (or do something to address QB longer term). Would be fine with LT / dynamic pass rusher / elite corner. Honestly kind of scared of drafting an LT that high.

Yeah I like Deshaun Watson a lot but aside from that would be fine with the dline talent. Need a safety this year but fine if we use money to sign eric berry

QUOTE (JenksIsMyHero @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 10:58 AM)

QUOTE (ChiSox59 @ Dec 5, 2016 -> 11:10 AM) Not a bad package by any means, and may end up being the best we can get, but just wish it was mainly position players. I have faith in the Sox developing pitching...we need bats! Yeah, I had questions about the positions we'd be getting back with Dodgers but it was nice knowing we'd be getting quality bats regardless. That said, we can try using our other pieces oustide of sale for bats. For all of our "we develop pitching" talk we are pretty barren in minors for both hitting and pitching.