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Yeah that's pretty good. I am really excited for Ginn this year as well.

Mentioned this a few times but I think Porcello tried to buy into the elevated 4seamer last year and it hurt him. I think if he just goes back to relying on his 2 seamer he is a decent (4.25-4.5 era) pitcher with obviously the ability to eat innings and potentially a plus year if our defense improves.

Regardless how effective he is with low velocity, there is a level of velocity that if he sits too far down it will be difficult to be a top pitcher in.

Yeah that stuff is just too hard to guess. The thing is the cubs don't have a replacement for Darvish, and so they'd have to really be confident in some of the remaining pitchers in FA at that 8-10 mill range for it to even be a benefit. But he's a guy whose salary makes him available but I don't think it qualifies as a dump.

darvish is 4 years 81 remaining. We don't know returns, but I'd be open to it. I think he'd benefit from Grandal, WS not withstanding.

Probably around the thames deal is a good benchmark.

Is the colome for narvaez trade the most pressing problem currently facing the sox? No. Do we have to celebrate that trade as good? Also no. "The fact that the sox promoted colome as a great flip candidate and couldn't flip him is fairly telling." I have enough evidence to go off of now, but their "in transition" moves to me were supposed to tell me if things changed. I wanted to see if they could identify undervalued talent in FA and trades. This was an example of a trade where the sox decided to go after a player and I don't think it was the best use of resources. By contrast you won't see me complain about the Joakim Soria deal, which unfortunately did not end up that well because their scouting is still pretty bad.

I think people are scared of Keuchel's margin for error and also his era appeared lucky due to his peripherals. I do think people underrated him getting ready on a partial season which historically has seemed to have hurt others not named clemens.

Maybe, their issue was always that they didn't have a CFer with all the guys on their roster. So they aren't in too different of a place.

He's 10 million this year committed, and I'd rather have that repurposed as having signed will smith for 3 years/40. Had the sox signed smith with colome, they'd have had a bullpen costing over a third of the budget (herrerra, colome, smith = $31 mill). Without him, they could have applied those savings toward other pitchers. In other words, It doesn't matter if he is 2-3 mill less than others, he also isn't a surplus value. He's paid about what he's worth.

I also think that people have started to caricaturize "madbum is not the pitcher he was and and shouldn't be paid with it" with "madbum is james shields-level bad".

But the odds of spending colome's $17/mill over two years toward another reliever better than Colome is not zero.

I am fine with keuchel as our second pitcher, I just want someone with some greater likelihood of top tier pitcher (which Ryu is most likely short term, Bum is possible but it's a bet on his being a great pitcher that will just learn how to pitch differently). I do think he'd be a good role model mentor guy, which I don't discount.

that number is certainly possible but I have seen nothing at any number for ryu to date.

That's the thing though, I'd rather have traded him for a comp pick, especially this year with the college pitching surplus. Life's all about choices... Narvaez isn't chris sale, but he's still a paperclip you'd hope to turn into a house

LOL Andy Pettite? God man we have Jim Thome just sitting on the sidelines, unleash him Jerry!

The thing I will never particularly like about Colome is he was paid market price and I don’t believe in his production lasting.

Not gonna lie I’d still take this package plus Colomes 10 mil applied for a different reliever.

Come on dude that post was the same minute as the other guys

Ooh, jealous of the comp pick.

Shocked this hasn’t finalized yet

At least Betts is one of the best players in baseball. Not my fault the Sox think spending 40 million on reclamation projects is a better use of funds.

He’s not injured.

Uh people were talking about Robbie Ray

Well, they were still a below average offense and could use an insanely productive bat.