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QUOTE(Punch and Judy Garland @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:45 PM) This was a better move than trading for Alfonso Soriano though Agree completely there.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:37 PM) My god. The Marlins are going down the drain. Do they trade Willis now or do they build around him? Willis and Cabrera are the only safe one's.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) Solid move for them IMO. Stewart and Castillo 1-2 is going to an annyoing punch at the top of there lineup. QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:23 PM) That sucks. He's a good pickup. Agreed and agreed. The good thing is they still have no punch in the heart of their order.

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:19 PM) With the workload the top four pitched last year, my thoughts are that they think some guys will hit the DL. Also Garland could be traded if he is not locked up long term. I think the 6 starters will all be needed next year. Especially with the stupid world thing. Garland isn't going anywhere.

QUOTE(SoxFan101 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 02:28 AM) How about in Dallas with the traveling call on Duncan at the end lol He got f***in mugged. That was absolutely ridiculous.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:11 PM) I don't know except what I read... But from what I read they are both equal on defense, but Young has better speed and more power... plus Anderson is more fragile... It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out which one projects to be the better player... Well good thing we can base defensive ability on things we've read. I'm sure people are going to take your opinion seriously when you say you dont follow the minor leagues at all but when you're trying to make a case for a player you like or don't like well then of course you know everything about these minor leaguers.

QUOTE(Jeckle2000 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) Anderson/Young>>>>Pierre>Owens for CF next year... This coming from a person who says he doesnt follow the minors at all. Hmm....

QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:06 PM) And they won't be next year? The yankees werent even the ones who set the market for mediocre pitchers, it was the Mets with Benson. With the way teams are overpaying for pitching as of late there is no doubt that Jon makes atleast 10 if he hits free agency.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 10:45 AM) Come on people, Jon Garland is not going to be more than a $10 mil pitcher, and he's really going to have to kick some ass to get that. You need to ignore this year's FA market because it's abnormally thin and there is a lot more money to throw around than most years. He's not going to have as much demand as several of the other starters because he's not a strikeout pitcher and he's been historically mediocre. Even considering the other players available that are like him, his resume and reputation is much weaker than that of guys like Pettitte, Zito, and Mulder. The general consensus around the league seems to be that this year was a fluke and he'll go back to his old self next year. The guy has one good season in his 6th year in the majors, his 4th as a full time starter, and suddenly he's the second coming? He wasn't even that dominant, and someone is supposed to pay him like he's Pedro Martinez or Johan Santana? I can't even come up with 10 teams that he would be the unquestioned ace on right now. This is just like the Konerko situation, with everyone panicking that he's going to be on another team on a ridiculous deal like 6/100. Let's drop our Sox bias for a second and objectively look at him. He's a young pitcher (although he'll be 27 when he's a FA, which isn't all that young) without elite stuff that has had one good but not great year in his major league career, maybe two years by the this time next year. And he's going to get $12 mil a year for 5 years or more? Please. Just relax and let things happen, don't panick about what you think might happen if some GM has a brain fart. It's not just this years market it was last years as well. Milton, Wright, Pavano, Benson, Radke, Clement, and there are probably a few more I cant think of right now got around 7.5 million in last years market. JG would be atleast a 10 mill per year pitcher if he hits the open market next offseason.

QUOTE(timotime @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 11:17 AM) HUGE mistake Um.. no. Flash has proved time and time again that's he's a very good closer. The 3 year contract is nuts for a 38 year old but he'll be a fine closer for them this year.

First off, Pierre has had 4 really good seasons out of six so lets not make things up now. Second, Chris Young is the one your thinking of with the highest ceiling out of all the of prospects in our system.

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 10:31 AM) Here is something I found interesting on Ben Maller...One local report Thursday indicated the ChiSox might be willing to trade second baseman Tadahito Iguchi to the Marlins in exchange for Marlins counterpart Luis Castillo. Posted December 2, by Ben Maller It was a suntimes writer. It's bull.

QUOTE(GreatScott82 @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 09:11 AM) WOW 6 mill/ year for a setup man? Not even a closer is worth that. Unless he is Mariano Rivera or a 100% healthy Gagne. Whats with the inflation in price for relievers? He's going to close for them.

You don't trade Jon Garland unless you're getting a top of the rotation starter. Brandon Webb is that but there is no reason at all why Arizona would trade Webb. Burnett is no where near as good as Garland, he's an asshole, and would cost a crap load of money over a lot of years. Try winning another series this year and the Garland situation will sort itself out. I'm not panicking that he turned down the Sox first contract offer, it's all negotiating.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 01:33 AM) No more ridiculous than 'creaming' over an undersized Class A pitcher that can't seem to stay healthy. I absolutely loved the trade and like I said I believe Gio is very hit or miss here, however Jeckle is basically dismissing him because he's a minor leaguer. Every single major leaguer had to be in the minors some time. If you don't think he's going to make it then that's absolutely fine and to be honest there is a good shot Gio never does make it but his reasoning behind it is ridiculous.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:44 AM) i meant 2004. I should've wrote that. Anybody who thinks Prior or Zambrano could be anything more than a #5 starter on this team right now is delusional. If we're going back to 04 then Zambrano's era was well over a run lower then Maddux's.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:34 AM) Last year he led the Cubs in wins? Zambrano led the cubs in wins last season.

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:34 AM) who led the Cubs in innings? Last year he led the Cubs in wins? He also started the most games for the cubs? He doesn't let his emotions get the best of him? If i had game 7 of the world series and i could pick anyone of those pitchers it would be Maddux. Also what has Prior done besides 2003? He is living off the hype. His ERA was very high for an NL ACE. He also had that habit of throwing 100 pitches in 5 innings which meant he couldn't go deep into games. Lets see..Maddux outpitched Zambrano by a whole 2 innings and Zambrano's era was around a whole run lower. Um..ya.

QUOTE(fathom @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:28 AM) Zambrano's their best pitcher, and it's not even close. ^

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Dec 2, 2005 -> 12:23 AM) Right now Maddux is their best pitcher on that staff. How about NO.

Ozzie has no clue what's going on right now. "McCarthy should be a starter," said Guillen, referring to the ideal situation for the young right-hander. "But I don't know exactly what we are going to do."

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 11:12 PM) I want to punch that website in the face right now.... I can hear it now.. "But Young strikes out a lot"... "But Cotts walks too many people" The only thing that makes me angrier is this 30-something page thread. Then stop posting in it.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 11:07 PM) .231/.301/.360 The collective batting line allowed this season by the pitchers Brian Anderson faced. In short, he saw nothing but all-star pitchers. How the hell did you figure that out?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 10:40 PM) I miss OTL. ^ I guess that show wasn't mtv enough for them. I wish they'd still show full episodes of that and not just on the trifecta. That's another thing I hate about espn, the f***in trifecta sucks.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:23 PM) WTF happend to SportsPage Live @ 9 on CLTV. Even though it sucked I watched it loyally. WHERE DID IT GO? It's gone?