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QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 07:31 AM) What was he throwing MPH wise last night? I didn't see the game, and the game thread didn't have much description on that. I was at the game and kind of shielded from the gun so someone else will have to fill you in about that. He's throwing about as hard as he threw last year though, his control just completely sucked last night. Every hitter seemed to have a 3-1 count and obviously that isn't going to work.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 04:45 PM) Another guy I can think of is Ken Shamrock. That guy is as tough as it gets. He's old now. Obviously the guy is still very tough but he's definitely not the fighter he once was. He's had his ass handed to him the last few times I've seen him fight.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 07:23 AM) I don't think anyone doubts this was going to happen to Freddy about a month back when he throwing the stuff he was. And really what's happened this month is quite weird for him, because usually he's the pitcher who absolutely thrives against high class opposition, while he has problems with teams he should put away easily like Kansas City. I think no doubt we're going to be able to find a taker for Garcia or Garland this off-season though, but it will depend on what KW wants in return. Teams in the NL like San Diego who need SP and have a pitchers park would be well advised to try and get one of these 2 on the cheap. Garcia's stuff isn't the problem right now, last night he just kept falling behind every hitter and when you do that you're going to get rocked, period.

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 06:41 PM) I don't get the wrestler love here. Obviously some of what goes on turns out to be real and you have to be tough and in shape to do it, but really wrestling is mostly fake s*** going on between juiced up freaks. Fake really isn't a good word to use for wrestling, scripted works out better because those guys get the s*** beat out of them every day. You're right about one thing though, for the most part they are juiced up freaks but most of them are tough as nails. QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 04:43 PM) I go with UFC fighters like Matt Hughes or Chuck Lidell. These guys are bad asses. Yup, two more very good choices there.

QUOTE(Capn12 @ Jun 12, 2006 -> 05:56 AM) Don't start with the "MBIIA" argument, I think you just did.

Have a good one bro.

Good thread.

Ya, that kid has no friends.

Garland sucks right now and Freddy just decided to get behind every god damn hitter today and then he'd have to groove a fastball and it would get nailed. Those two guys worry me everytime out right now.

Yup, firing the hitting coach is always the answer. Von Joshua, Gary Ward, and now Greg Walker, it's obviously always the hitting coach's fault.

QUOTE(greg775 @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 11:56 PM) I figure if you commit to go to a game, you are there for the long haul. Too much can happen, like tonight. Of course two hour rain delays and all that ... it might be time to leave. That's stupid to sit 3 hours waiting when you know more rain is coming, etc. Sounds like opening day. I must have been one of four people still at the park when the game resumed.

QUOTE(SoxAce @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 11:35 PM) Was that you out there in the stands with your friends with your shirt off with the "I" in "White Sox!" ?! No, I was the explanation point.

The dumbest thing I did tonight was not wear a sweatshirt or jeans to the game but I stayed. The thing that bothers me about that whole 9th inning is that Jim and Mack hit those balls so hard.

QUOTE(WilliamTell @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 02:31 AM) A lot of you seem to be experts and/or know a whole lot more about exercising than I do. So I'm just wondering, what are some good cardiovascular exercises? Biking, running, and jump roping come to mind for me. Any others that would help burn off some of the fat? Any form of martial arts.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 01:54 AM) The more often he plays the sooner he will be exposed... ride him out at various positions while he is hot... but don't be shocked too see some errors thrown in. Pablo is a solid hitter... but then again he has very limited gap/power. His ability to draw a walk is lacking... in 408 career at-bats he has walked only 14 times while striking out 44 times ( which is not bad). Whoa...you're alive.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jun 11, 2006 -> 12:19 AM) Me and my friend just had a conversation about these today, and voila, its on the internet Do you guys remember these? they were scrumptious Did they start remaking those? I swear I saw a picture of them on an ice cream truck a few weeks ago, I was real tempted to go get one.

If you're going to give Ozuna a chance to play everyday, try ss since that's actually his natural position. He's brutal in left, in center he'd be comical to watch play everyday.

QUOTE(soxhawks @ Jun 9, 2006 -> 05:32 PM) This would be great if Pujols was on roids, it would just turn all of these reporters into complete hypocrites because I guarentee they would not give Pujols half the s*** they've given Bonds. If by great you mean absolutely horrible then yes. I agree with southsider though, this s*** sucks because players will get their reputations ruined even if this isn't true. I really do hate Donald Fehr.

I played one year and was a third baseman. I was a great defender but couldn't hit at all. I had to quit after one year cause it interfered with my crazy basketball schedule at the time.

QUOTE(SnB @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 09:08 PM) i think alot of it is out of frustration. Pre 2005, we were all getting increasingly frustrated as jon never seemed to live up to his potential. Last year he came out of nowhere and dominated. Now it seems like we're right back where we started from 2 years ago. I wish we were back where we started 2 years ago. Jon has been horrible this year and I think it's comments like that, that make people dislike him even more, it's kind of like when a few years ago where he said something along the lines of "I don't come to your job and boo you." You add in the nice contract he got this past offseason and he's not going to be very well liked if he posts an era over 6. That's just not going to work.

What an enjoyable game to watch. I can't get enough of Pablo, that guy f***in rocks. Mark was fantastic, nice to see Pods and Gooch get the big hits when they've been struggling for a little while now. Absolutely awesome.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 04:06 AM) Another good comparison would be 2000 Giambi - .333 43 137 108 .476/.647/1.123 Thomas - .328 43 143 115 .436/.625/1.061 Giambi was better in the saber categories than Thomas was by a sufficient margin, which didn't help Thomas at all, and in a case like this where the numbers are so close, Giambi playing defense probably did help his case. However, if hypothetically Thomas hit .345, hit 50 homers, and drove in 160, there's not a chance in hell Giambi beats him. It can be done...it just hasn't been done yet.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 10, 2006 -> 01:35 AM) The only things keeping me from saying it's an easy decision are the monster drop off in defensive ability and Cabrera's s*** work ethic/attitude. Otherwise it's pretty damn easy. I absolutely love Miggy but Joe is one guy that I just find to valuable to this team to replace because of what he does on both sides of the ball.