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Stick with the youth movement. It's only been 2 years for the rebuild.

Because it's the amount of money over 10 years as opposed to one year. Yonder will not be part of the team when they are competitive. He is a decent player for a place holder and a bribe for Manny.

This is why I would go higher on a deal for Harper but would pass on Machado for that price.

I would offer more overall money with more years but I would go much over the 35 mil AAV. Maybe offer 10/350. That's 75 million more, that's a significant amount.

You mean like never signing an Albert Belle? The case with Manny has more to do with someone who has professed a desire to play for one team. If the Yankmees came up with at least a decent deal, he was going to take it. There comes a point where it just isn't worth the capital for the player. This is not the same scenario for Harper, if I were the Sox I would go significantly higher for him. However, in my view, I wouldn't for Machado.

If its 8/275, I don't blame the Sox for not beating that by a significant margin. He would not be worth 40 million AAV.

I don't think I've ever seen threads turn into a discussion of the reports and "sources" as opposed to discussion about the actual players or how the White Sox owner and FO suck before.

You don't understand that EE is possibly both a negotiation tool and part of a plan B?

Everyone knew they had to significantly outbid the Yankmees for his services. He has stated forever that he preferred to play there. It is probably the case that no amount of money that would change his mind. Besides the Sox will trade for him in 2 years when he is tired of the Yankmees fans booing him.

So there is no possiblity that Machado always wanted to play for the Yankmees and Harper always wanted to play in LA and nothing was going to change their minds? Since all of the deals were going to be near record setting, their desire to play in a particular city makes no difference.

But this isn't just an issue with the White Sox. He always wanted to go to the Yankees over ALL other teams. This includes the Phillies and the Dodgers and all of the other teams. It's not be cause the Sox are irrelevant, it's because he WANTED to go to the Yankees.

I still don't understand the team getting roasted part. If the Sox offered the most money, why are the fans going to be upset? It will be a case of Machado always wanting to sign with the Yankees and his agent used the White Sox and Phillies to drive up the price. Why are the fans going to be angry with the White Sox? They tried to hard? They were willing to sign him to a record breaking deal?

It could mean that Machado was truthful when he said he always wanted to play for the Yankees and no offer from the Sox, Phillies or Dodgers would change his mind.

I thought it was only the most money that mattered. Not by how much the most money was.

When the pitchers throw near max effort for an extended period if time they lose their mechanics. The two are directly related.

Yes. Not exactly a winning model.

Yes, as third string QB for the Bears.

I've been saying this since the beginning.

The only way this makes any difference is if the players agree to a cap where its agreed that the players get a percentage of the revenue. Until that time, the players get what is negotiated in the individual contracts. Maybe this will be the owners push during the next CBA.

One word: injury. A 10 year deal with player opt outs gives a guarantee if injuries occur but allow them to get a better deal if they career goes well.

The injuries were also to different tendons with drastically different structures. Burgers injury has a really good success rate, although the second one throws a variable there. Mitchell's was to a tendon which is important to the stability of the foot and would cause problems with any running or planting the foot. His was much more serious.

I've already had my kids and been shipped so I'll offer mine up.

Gee, I thought it was the Taylor Swift song.?

I'm with you on this one. I would love for the Sox to sign him but not in the 400 mil range, unless it's a deferred one over 20 years, no interest.

I agree. You know Im a music nut. The live stuff, I'll go see as well. Just the corny movies drive me bonkers.