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QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Sep 27, 2008 -> 09:37 PM) Maybe AJ went out and told Javy the truth, told him he's pitching like a pussy and to grow a pair. Ha, funny how quickly everyone has turned on Vazquez, as though it wasn't apparent that he was a career loser before recently.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Sep 27, 2008 -> 10:06 PM) This may be the least liked White Sox team, by its own fans, in history. I agree with this statement 100%.

QUOTE (Brian @ Sep 27, 2008 -> 08:42 PM) "Lakeview Terrace" was ok. Nothing special. Kind of movie that reminds you that Sam Jackson can act and is a great bad guy. Thing is, I'm not sure if I hated him or not until the end. I have absolutely no desire to see that movie, and I won't. But, I noticed that Ebert gave it four stars. Can you explain why that might be?

RIP.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 03:02 PM) I'm trying to find somewhere for Thanksgiving actually. I want the whole "American" experience on that day. Otherwise it'll be a buch of Brits and me trying to cook a turkey in an oven. Hey, I'd invite you, but I honestly have no idea where I'll be for Thanksgiving. It'll either be back home in Chicago, at my girlfriend's, or at a friend's.

Yes, it is now over.

I'm sick and tired of people saying that we shouldn't be upset or angry that we didn't win the division because "we were picked to finish in fourth place." The people who are saying this are the same people who would've asked in the beginning of the year what these "analysts" know, and say, "that's why they play the games." But, now that the Sox have fallen apart, it's "let's not get angry because this is better than what ESPN told us would happen." f*** that. Kenny Williams told us that he would not rebuild, and that he would put a team out there to try to win the division. That didn't happen. This year was a failure, period.

QUOTE (alexgtp @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:43 PM) White Sox have surpassed everyones expectations. How is that being a failure? They were picked to finish last. This board picked them to finish 3-4. I A division title would be nice. A WS title even better. I for one an estatic at how well the Sox have performed this year. I will be at the games all weekend rooting my team into the post season. This board really needs to be more positive. You know, I would buy this dumb ass argument if the team and management openly said at the beginning of the year that they believed they would finish in fourth or fifth place. Just because some analysts said we were supposed to suck, and then we didn't, and then we choked away the year, does not mean this year wasn't a failure.

QUOTE (DBAHO @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) Can I come to your house for Thanksgiving? Strangely, I never cook for Thanksgiving. I like to just make the Thanskgiving-type meal randomly.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:26 AM) Failing miserably is what the Mariners did this season. If the Sox win 2 games in Minnesota, none of this is being talked about. I don't know if "heads rolling" is really necessary. So because other dumb organizations make irrational moves, the Sox should follow? You purposely altered my statements. I didn't say organizations that fire their coaches are dumb. Sometimes managers/coaches have to be fired, even if they had a nice streak of winning. When teams fail, the people who are in charge of the team have to pay the price. They know it, that's how it works in professional sports. And the White Sox have faded down the stretch in every season since 2000 besides on year. That is consistent failure, and someone needs to get the axe for that.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 11:18 AM) Sounded more like a reference to Bobby Jenks. What? I was clearly referring to Danks. How in the f*** was Jenks our best pitcher throughout the year? Danks has that locked up, even if he gets blown out to end the season. I'm saying it was a f***ing retarded move to purposely avoid starting Danks in that series.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:50 PM) I really have a hard time blaming the coaching staff. I am really torn as a Sox fan right now. I really am impressed with what Williams did this off-season after a terrible year, but at the same time, the team is one of the most one dimensional teams I have ever seen watching baseball. Walker coaches these guys to not only play to their strengths, but to the ballparks strength. It just so happens most of the lineups strength is built around an all or nothing approach. As I have said, the Sox need some different style hitters to mold around the power. That's not the point. When a team fails miserably so consistently, heads have to roll. Coaches are fired all the time, even if they don't really deserve it, because a statement has to be made. Walker, at the very least, needs to go.

QUOTE (aboz56 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:28 PM) Considering we were expected to finish fourth in the division, I would hardly call the season a failure. Now these past three games were definitely a failure and that's putting it nicely. I have nothing against you, aboz, but I hate that way of thinking.

QUOTE (Tony82087 @ Sep 26, 2008 -> 01:11 AM) That sounds about right. The Sox should be ashamed to have to cheer for the Royals this weekend. The scoreboard watching should be over. If this is a surprise to anyone, they haven't followed the team. Cabrera was gone in June. Yes, it failed. I'm not going to blame Ozzie for trying his hand with his "horses". Blame could be put on Williams for not having a real backup plan after Contreras, but whatever. If you are going to go down, I would rather it be with the guys that got you to first place. The Sox are going to end up with Cano, and the package is going to be centered around Swisher. Call it a hunch. Everyone was calling for urgency, and praising Gardy for playing the 7th game of the World Series. Again, Ozzie was using the best he had, and was going to go down with it. I would rather loose with Jenks than Dotel getting lit up. Comparing him with Rickey Henderson should get him fired, I don't care how good Gomez looked. Well, I posted way more than I wanted to tonight. O well. Such as the man who was consistently our best pitcher throughout this entire season (minus about 4 games)?

I love to make full turkey dinners, and I'm not kidding.

f*** this loser team in its ass. They're a joke. An absolute joke. f*** them.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:36 PM) THAT EPISODE SUCKS You suck.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:21 PM) I love the way the Oz haters never mention how close many of those games were in the 05 postseason and how we won all but one of them. Oz pulled the strings every game. I assuming they say I'm living in the past and/or any clown could have made the same moves in 05. I can recall some horrible calls in the playoffs, mainly in the ALDS and WS. And it's not hard to sit on the bench and let your starters throw four straight CG's. Ozzie is to Ditka as Cooper is to Ryan. The former two are the guys who get all the credit and are way overrated, and the latter two are the guys who deserve the majority of the credit but get none.

QUOTE (rangercal @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:19 PM) I think you find joy when the sox lose just so you can b****. As I recall, TheBigHurt is usually one of the more optimistic posters.

Once In A Lifetime.

Ozzie is basically one of those fools who refuses to leave an area that is about to be destroyed by a natural disaster.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 02:49 AM) You play the guys who brung ya. Dye should play. It's on him if he sucks again. You would be the worst manager in baseball history, I swear to God.

Aren't these "rally" things specific to certain years/seasons?

QUOTE (SoxPride56 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 12:48 PM) Watch the game, because no matter what happens, win or lose, your going to miss baseball come October.

QUOTE (Markbilliards @ Sep 24, 2008 -> 11:34 PM) They boo him for the same reason he was traded (discluding the fact he was traded for tons of goodies). He was a clubhouse cancer for the Twinkies. Didn't get along with his team at all. That's why people started booing him to begin with, because he was known as a "bad guy" of baseball. Then after some of the '05 controversy everyone wanted to jump on the AJ hatred train. MN, is the only place that rightfully should boo him. But yeah, the guy who threw back Griffey's homer is an idiot. You could see by the look on his face he was hesitant though. You're either misinformed or a liar.