Kyyle23

Yea I think the range was the question with Beckham, never the arm

QUOTE (iamshack @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 01:31 PM) I lose track...we hate almost every umpire at this point. Unfortunately we don't have Hawk able to tell us anymore

Wasn't Angel Campos involved in that balk incident with Joe West and Buehrle? IIRC he was the home umpire

QUOTE (Jake @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 01:15 PM) Impressive that the Boston crowd keeps tabs on everything well enough to know that this could be the last they see of him. Why is that impressive? Boston fans may be arrogant and annoying but they aren't dumb

QUOTE (Stan Bahnsen @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 01:13 PM) Lucky hit. Now they'll be asking for Mitchell AND Floyd. Give it to them!!!!!!!!!!

Damn, Hawk almost said Carlos Gomez was one of the fastest guys in the past 50 years

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 12:52 PM) Ahh MiLf Milwaukee I get it . Kyyle are you OK ? I just sit through it and hope one day he will try and not do that. joecoolman came to his senses, i have hope for sunofgold too

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 11:32 AM) Nick Cafardo @nickcafardo Kevin Towers confirmed that the D-Backs are not in the Kevin Youkilis hunt. Sox would prefer an NL destination. Dodgers? Braves? And here it goes, KW was just used as the media pawn. The Redsox have been dragging their feet creating a market and interest for Youk so they could trade him to a NL club like they have wanted. That alone shows the Redsox think he still has something in the tank and don't want this trade to burn them down the road if they did trade him to the sox or an AL team. I would care if this wasnt a broken down .236 hitting version of Kevin Youkilis. Lets be honest here, if he comes we have to HOPE that he has something left in the tank. If it doesnt happen, whatever.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 11:06 AM) Do you even read what I write or are you just completely ignoring it? The point is that the Bulls sacrificed long term success for short term gain. Rose's injury could be catastrophic to the Bulls for the next few years. Paul Pierce is an old man, the Celtics window is basically closing if not closed. If this was Rose at 33 and the entire Bulls squad was old, you understand going to the whip. But we are talking about a young player coming off of a MVP season, and hindsight is 20/20 but the Bulls being the 1st seed or 4th seed really wasnt worth the injury. I am not arguing that Thibs didnt use Rose more or less depending on the game, I am saying that Thibs should have used more restraint regardless of how close the game was, and if that meant losing some games in the regular season, so be it. Its funny that you say I didnt read what you said, then you mention he didnt use restraint after I just showed you that he plainly did use restraint and limited his minutes often. But of course, he should have just not let him play for the first half of the season, right? That would have demonstrated restraint. Just dont play your best player until the playoffs. That would have worked. The point is that nobody could have predicted Rose was going to blow out his knee. You are acting like Thibs made him play 48 minutes a night and the knee blowing out was inevitable, which isnt even close to true

Yea i agree, Youk is showing he can play third respectably right now. And not just for the Sox, for any team inquiring. If you bench him and dont prove he can play the position after an injury, then you might as well cut him because no team is going to trade for him with anyone of worth

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 03:48 AM) Why do you guys care how the Marlns are doing? It's a lack of class IMO to root against Ozzie Guillen. I guess he's the scapegoat even though our team this year is as dysfunctional as ever. You guys blame Ozzie for the Sox play this year yet? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 10:42 AM) Jamie Moyer? In the AL? No thanks. I dont think the league matters. I think father time finally caught up with him. He broke plenty of bats as a member of the Mariners for a very long time

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 10:41 AM) I agree but the bothersome thing is WE continue this speculation and the under valuing of our own players. For one thing I don't believe Floyd will go anywhere this season as we seeing our own problems with starting pitching suffering injuries. If we are going to compete we need major league picthers and Floyd is one. I don't see us competing with stop gap replacements from the minors. Quintana has worked out but Stewart and Axelrod have struggled. Matt Thonton is a quality left handed relief pitcher. He might be trade bait but not for Youklis. I see is a story that the Sox are looking for pitching too. Maybe we will take a chance on Jamie Moyer? We don't trade anyone and we get a professional lefty starter probably still able to be effective for 5 or 6 innings. ElrockinMT, I admire your love for the players on the team, but I believe you overvalue them as much as many undervalue them. Crede and Quentin case in point. Sometimes you have to sell high. We didnt do that with Quentin and the return we got was less than satisfactory.

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 10:17 AM) Why is Floyd and Thonton et al continually being speculated on when we talk Youklis. If either of those two went in a trade to Boston for a broken down 3Bman on his last year it would border on highway robbery by Boston. Youk may help us for sure but only for this season and Thornton and Floyd have many good years left. I am not arguing that either may be trade bait but not for a short term fix at 3B and an injury prone fellow at that. IKf we do trade for Youklis it will be contingent on picking up X amount of his salary and/or minor leage prospect (s) Youkilis doesnt have much trade value left after the past season dating back to last July. I am sure the Red Sox are trying to get major league talent, because it is their right to ask for the best players possible, but at the same time it doesnt mean either of those players will be moved for Youk

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 10:29 AM) Boston is stupid to allow him to play today anything can happen. let them be stupid.

Lets get a little momentum going White Sox. I dont know who this Fiers guy is, but I am sure sunofgold will have all kinds of bad nicknames and catchphrases for him throughout the game, so hopefully he gets shelled quickly so I dont have to sit through it for long.

QUOTE (Soxfest @ Jun 24, 2012 -> 09:55 AM) Boston better pray Youk's back does not mysteriously flair up today. Why? If that is going to happen you want it to happen before a trade is made

QUOTE (RZZZA @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 11:10 PM) I like the black. Good guys wear black. I still remember that slogan from the 90's. That was a good slogan. The words of House Reinsdorf...good guys wear black. House Reinsdorf had some special uniforms in the 80s that did not contain very much black

@chefyouk: #whychicagoisbetterthanboston the worst Chicago deep dish is twice as good as any pie from the #northend

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 04:07 PM) What does it matter? He shouldnt have been playing that many minutes coming right off injury, worrying about winning regular season games and not resting Rose was short sighted and exactly what Im arguing against. Because my point was he wasnt playing high minutes unless necessary. If the games were tight and they needed him, he was in. If they werent, he sat. Plus, Thibs always would start games with Rose, then put the entire bench mob in to start the second quarter. If the bench mob extended the lead, Rose would be eased in midway through the second quarter. Im arguing that his minute usage was a direct result of the type of game they played. He rested Rose when he could. And it matters because all you keep pointing to is his minutes usage, nothing else. Your guy Rivers ran Paul Pierce out for the entire end of the season run on a bum leg, because he needed him. Thibs played Rose with caution after the injuries started Lets take a look, shall we? First game back from first injury absence Boston, minutes 39:19, final score 88-79. The Bulls let a 20 point halftime lead dwindle to 1 point, Derrick had to take over, game won. Toronto, minutes 41:28, Final Score 77-64. Bulls were up 4 points going into the 4th quarter, at home, and Rose had to come in and save the day again. Then he sat out 4 games due to the turf toe issue again NJ Nets, minutes 36:19, final score 110-95. So basically Derrick sat out most of the 4th quarter. Next game, they LOST 90-95 to the Pacers, and Derrick only played 38 minutes. So even in a loss Thibs didnt push him to come back out and play. Milwaukee, Final score 107-100, minutes 37:17, again, Derrick sitting out what would be most of an entire quarter Heat, lost 93-97, minutes 44:33. Derrick missed a few free throws at the end in a crucial game against the eventual NBA champions Wizards, Final score 98-88, minutes 40:53. So Derrick basically takes off a little over half of a quarter in a home win. Philadelphia, lost 82-98, minutes 31:04. In a blowout loss, Thibs lets him sit down and rest. Strange. Knicks, final score 105-102, minutes 39:04. Huge game against the resurgent Knicks, the Bulls pull it off in the garden. Im not going to continue to show it to you, because it is obvious the pattern that Thibs used with Rose and all of his injuries this season, just look at his minute log and the final score. Thibs used him for long minutes only when he had to, and when he didnt, Thibs sat him down and let him rest.

Well, with Cook being brought up that pretty much confirms that the Red Sox aren't asking for Major League players in return.

Yay, Jake isn't spamming my facebook account tonite!

QUOTE (kapzk @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 09:10 PM) Ok Thornton do your job We could only hope.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Jun 23, 2012 -> 11:55 AM) That is not really true. Rose's injuries started in January. When he returned he played 36, 38, 37, 45, 41, 31, 40, 31 and then he starts to get injured again, 11, 22. So he misses another 5 games, when he comes back does he play 25-30 minutes to take it easy? No, he plays 35 minutes the first game. Then it goes 30, 41, 35, 28, 42, 29, 39, 36, 35, 43, and he is then out another 12 games. At this point youd really expect his first game back would be light work, but he plays 39 minutes and then has to miss the next game. After that the Bulls take it easy, he plays 25 minutes. The problem is the next game he once again plays 41 minutes and then has to sit again for another 3 games. He comes back and plays 32 minutes and the final game 27. So your comment isnt really born out by the stats. Rose mpgs drop because a few games he played less than 25 minutes, but they were an aberration. It wasnt that after Rose got hurt early, he never played 35 minutes again. In fact he consistently kept playing 35+ minutes. There were just a few games where he played under 20 minutes and a handful of under 30. In fact of his last 6 games, 3 were at least 39 minutes, and after every 38+ minute game he didnt play at least the next one. The facts are Rose averaged the most minutes per game in Jan, when he was already experiencing injuries, and he only averaged a minute less in March after he had missed ten games. I do not agree with how Rose was handled at all. Badger, what was the score of the games where he played 35+ minutes. And what was the score when he played less.