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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2012 -> 08:16 AM) If you get to the end of the season though, he's got a shot at a much bigger deal than that, he'd be sitting there looking at free agency (and a nice $4 million buyout). Its really depends on Peavys comfort level IMO. is he looking to stack money, or is he happy with what he has going and does he want to continue? Lots of "Ifs", my proposal was obviously one of an extremely optimistic guessed result in 2012

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 24, 2012 -> 07:57 AM) I guess the question then is...do you think Jake Peavy can stay healthy enough to be worth $23 million over 2 years? This would be a decision I would make hopefully late in the season where I could have some evaluation time with Peavy. Making that deal now would be foolish though, Peavy would have to show me he is back for more than 3 starts.

If I were KW I would say let's take that option and make it into a two year extension. That would pay jake what, 11.5 a year for the next two years? It gives Jake job security and makes the money manageable, and if he actually recovers and has a great year, everyone is happy.

IAA

here is to hoping that bottom three gets their collective heads out of their asses. Having 3 automatic outs in a row is not good

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 23, 2012 -> 03:17 PM) Watching Captain America now to get completely caught up for the Avengers movie. It's kinda boring. I disagree, but it is a origin movie, so there is a lot yet to come

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 23, 2012 -> 11:04 AM) Haven't heard that name, any idea what round he's slotted in? Last week I read an article that Lovie was wining and dining him, but they expected Jones to be gone by the time they picked. Maybe his stock has risen in the past couple months due to workouts and combines. If he is built like his brother, he is pretty long and athletic

I would love to see Chandler Jones opposite of Peppers. Partly because I want to see Bones Jones cheering on the Bears, and partly because I know he is pegged to be a stud DE

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 04:06 AM) Except please, no connection to JOHN CARTER. That $200 million writeoff forced Ross, the Disney studio head, to lose his job. LOL, not the US Civil war. The Marvel Civil war.

QUOTE (Reddy @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 04:31 PM) are you 12? I don't know what you are talking about with "poor Danks" either. He has been awful today, and just like usual he gives a lead back and then some. Yeah the errors by lilli and beckham sucked, but the guys on base when those errors happened were all on Danks.

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 04:06 PM) SGDALAHGIRB PEOTCA

Hey look, Sox gave Danks a lead and he gave it right back. No f***in way. Insert acronym

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 03:39 PM) ??? Was just gonna wait for someone else to ask, lol, I have no idea either

QUOTE (CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 03:29 PM) JDINPH I love this

QUOTE (SoxFan1 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 03:28 PM) Works every time. 6-4-3. I know, it is like sex panther cologne

JDINAA

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 04:05 AM) Hope this plays out better than the Sirotka/David Wells deal and Santos isn't out for a significant period of time. At least he actually reported to the Blue Jays in shape (unlike Pineda) and pitched for the first 2-3 weeks, and demonstrated the same velocity and stuff he had last season with the Sox. The only similarity is the two teams conducting the deal. Santos was not dealt after finishing out the previous season on and off the DL. Sirotka(and pretty much the entire 2000 Sox staff) ended that season on fumes with all of them taking turns on the DL. And let's not forget, Wells wasn't exactly a steal, both teams received damaged goods, and neither team got a return from either pitcher. If Santos ends up hurt this season, I would attribute it to bad luck, not the Sox passing off an injured pitcher.

Does this mean that we have to admit you are older AND wiser?

So on thursday, all four chicago teams lost their games. Then last night, all four teams won their games. I know that the last time they all lost on the same day was a while ago, so I am guessing winning them all on the same day is probably not a common occurrence either. Either way, hell of a day in Chicago sports yesterday. Perfect game, playoff OT win, Bulls Magic number moves to 1, and Cubs snap a six game losing streak(snicker)

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Apr 22, 2012 -> 07:26 AM) It's kind of like, yeah, KW (more specifically, Hahn and Cooper) were very right on a player/pitcher because they saw him a couple of times pitching first-hand for the Royals against us late in 2011 and they took a flyer on him. Even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes, in this case, we might as well be making fun of the Twins, Royals and A's for all giving up on him...especially Beane and Dayton Moore, who can always use pitching, but Billy Smith (again) looks stupid. The same thing could probably be said if you mentioned the reaction when we picked up Gil Heredia and Esteban Loaiza before the 2003 season. Or Silverio, Gomes and Orlando, etc. Mitch Mustain, the ex Arkansas/USC QB. Did anyone in those threads predict he was going to amount to something? We had at this same debate over and over again about Rios, Dunn and Peavy when they were acquired. I guess it's probably easier for the last five years of KW's tenure to just predict that every single acquisition's going to be a disaster. Lillibridge and DeAza, for example. Did anyone predict 3 weeks ago that Kip Wells was going to return to the White Sox rotation this season? Are they idiots for having done so, or was that thread just filled with cynicism and scoffing? Same thing with Stewart and Molina...for all those betting against KW getting an impact pitcher, is KW going to send out letter congratulating us for being right when neither of them makes it (just an example)...or for posters being upset when Holmberg, Hudson, Gonzalez or Chris Young were traded? I remember fighting with numerous posters and admins for years about Brian Anderson being a bust. Does that mean I should go and dig up those posts? Kind of silly, because we've all been wrong more often than we've been right. If you take a controversial or lightning rod position to spark discussion like J4L often does with his player evaluations, you're always going to be wrong just as wrong as major league teams are often quite wrong drafting in the first round. It's not an exact science, nor will it ever be (see Moneyball). Or maybe there's an even more nuanced situation, like Yoenis Cespedes, where you not only have to consider talent/projectability/video displays against unreal competition, but also our budgetary restraints and those consequences. For right now, every team in the majors looks pretty silly for not having gone stronger after Cespedes. That doesn't mean someone should now spend $30-40 million on Soler, either. Any time a team gives a $100+ million dollar contract, it's easy to say "they're being crazy and responsible," that won't work out. Does that mean we're smarter than Epstein/Bill James/Cherington for being against the signing(s) of Dice-K, JD Drew, Lackey, Beckett or Carl Crawford? We all have our biases, too. I've always loved Cuban players, does that mean I'm wrong about Viciedo because he's been something of a bust so far this season? Well, time will tell on that one, just like Molina, Mitchell, doesn't matter what propect you're talking about. It reminds me of all those acquisitions like Hermanson, Politte, Cotts, Dye, AJ, Pods, Vizcaino, El Duque and Iguchi, Takatsu...none of us could predict that someone KW had only seen on video would make such a big difference to our team in 2005 and 2006, any more than that same person could have predicted similar players like Kaz Matsui or Nishioka last year with the Twins would be such big busts, respectively. And then there are the situations like Takatsu when you can be both right and wrong about a player. Good signing, low risk/high reward, but it won't work over the long-term. Like Fukudome, maybe. If any of us were so great at doing player evaluations, probably we'd all be working for major league teams by now, right? Good god, Caulfield

When are you going to publish your findings and get all of these pitching coaches fired? Nobody knows what they are doing in the MLB

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Apr 21, 2012 -> 11:44 AM) As soon as someone can conclusively prove that guys get hurt more often when they're throwing 130 pitches a game than when they're throwing 100 pitches a game, I'll be happy to agree, but I sure haven't seen it. Then it is obviously untrue and pitching counts don't matter.

Iirc he started slow in 08 and was back to his normal self after the ASB. I do believe that he is a freak of nature in the mold of Nolan Ryan, but Leyland really should stop playing with fire. I can't imagine that Verlander throwing 100mph on an arm that just went 130 pitches is good.

1. This thread will not be stickied. If it is popular, it will float and be towards the top regardless. 2. I don't think bucket of suck was starting this thread to specifically call people idiots, but if this thread gets to that point it will be stopped. 3. Last night adam dunn looked better in every at bat than he did for the entire season of 2011

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Apr 20, 2012 -> 11:07 PM) CSIAA. Too Early? No, right on the money