IlliniKrush

QUOTE (champs2005 @ Oct 19, 2012 -> 02:00 PM) never mind 2006 or 2007 guys, we are living in 2012 and the 2013 season is being planned for. The market research reflects what fans think NOW. You dont plan 2013 for what fans thought 6 years ago. We can argue all we want, but rest assured that Brooks Boyer and the Sox brain trust now will NOT assume that more people will show up if the Sox win. They have to create strategies that get people to show up. And they are doing this. Like they built Bacardi in the Park. Like they built that Metra station stop. Now they are finally cutting parking and ticket prices. Of course the GM and that staff want to get good players and we fans want the team to win. But honestly we all must stop repeating this mantra of if "they win they will come" because it isnt true. Especially in light of the fact that 70% of current fans would rather watch the games at home. OMG that is a horrible stat. LOL, so you just throw really recent history to the side. Ignorant. Tickets are too expensive. We get that. But part of it is it's too expensive for what product? You're delusional if you think winning doesn't have anything to do with it. And I'm talking winning with consecutive playoffs appearances, etc.

QUOTE (champs2005 @ Oct 19, 2012 -> 01:20 PM) Your statements are not backed up by the market research. Winning is not correlated with more attendance for the Sox. Period. This is new information. I urge everyone here to stop accepting as Gospel the theory that if the Sox win (no matter for how long they win) the fans will come to the ballpark in droves. The market researchers talked to more than 8,000 fans and this theory was proven false. Explain 2006 attendance.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 19, 2012 -> 12:11 PM) Why on Earth would TMZ have this information? BECAUSE TMZ KNOWS EVERYTHING ABOUT EVERYTHING YO

Question for the masses/conversation starter. Rank these 1-10, 1 most important, 10 least important. Would be interesting to see what others are looking for. These are in no particular order. Should be interesting to see differences in answers based on age, line of work, etc. Interesting Work Loyalty of Supervisor Being in on Things Appreciation of Work Done High Wages Job Security Tactful Discipline Good Work Conditions Promotion Potential Help on Personal Problems

I can't drink for s*** anymore (I'm 29). Not only is it age, but there's not much tolerance left since I don't drink a lot very often. I have to play that "toe the line" game as well or it's really bad the next day. Looking back at college is ridiculous. Drink at a bar until 2, and able to get up the next morning at 9 ready to go to a college football game. Feeling slightly tired and hungover, but really not too bad. Your body gives you everything it has for those 4 years, then taps out and says alright, you're done with that nonsense. I tried to do that last year when I went back to U of I for a weekend, and the results were less than stellar. I'm sure I'm not the only one that also doesn't drink much of Miller/Coors/Bud at all anymore, I'd rather just have a few "fine" beers. No point in drinking crap.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 19, 2012 -> 07:43 AM) Even if the Sox had made the playoffs, they would have gotten their asses kicked in the first round. Their top three starters were DOA, their 1-4 hitters were hurt, and their closer was pretty much closed out. About the only guy that was really hot was Gavin Floyd, and maybe Alex Rios. That's it. That the easy line to use to help you cope with missing it, but there's just no way to know that. A 5 game series. Any team in baseball could beat any other team in a 5 game series right now. Baseball playoffs are random as hell. Get in, anything happens. It's been proven year after year. A few good starts from pitchers, a few homers...you're in the next round.

Andy Reid's son died of a heroin overdose. As if anyone's really surprised. What's unfortunate is this quote from him when he had problems before... "I don't want to die doing drugs," Garrett Reid told a judge, according to WPVI. "I don't want to be that kid who was the son of the head coach of the Eagles, who was spoiled and on drugs and OD'ed and just faded into oblivion." BTW, what's an "accidental" heroin overdose? As opposed to ODing on purpose? Seems like an unnecessary word.

Oregon at Arizona St. Oregon has 43 points...with 11:33 remaining in the SECOND QUARTER. Holy f***.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 18, 2012 -> 05:37 PM) I'm bad at math. I think the price is going to be $700 and that was a typo or bad grammar. http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/201...-prices-in-2013 4 bleachers for $2800 season, 2800/4 = 700. If you read it again it says $2800 less for 4, not actual price for 4. They said upper reserved are $810 for season's, no way bleacher seats are $9 a ticket for an entire season. If they are sign me up though, even if I can't make a lot of the games.

QUOTE (DukeNukeEm @ Oct 18, 2012 -> 05:14 PM) I was thinking about season tickets but at last year's prices I would have to be in the 500's and I'm not honestly willing to shell out a big chunk of cash to be quarantined in the upper atmosphere. But $730 bleachers? The Sox may have just lowered into my price range with a product I like. This is going to attract a ton of young fans with s***ty jobs and college kids home for the summer ($7 upper reserved is dirt cheap). Love this, great news. The $730 was in regards to how much the price will drop, not overall cost for season tickets.

It's OK, there's no way Detroit will do anything in the postseason.

Loved Brenly's style, totally honest, call out the home team...that anti-homer stuff would never fly with Hawk or the Hawk fans.

More UK, just ridiculous to think of how next year's recruiting class could look. I didn't know about the one kid possibly re-classifying to become a senior. http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--john-c...attainable.html

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 18, 2012 -> 10:27 AM) Well, there is one other factor that is going to be a big detriment to them next year: the Red Line construction. The 35th street station will be closed for some period of weeks or months during the summer next year. This doesn't really/shouldn't really do much. The Red Line is running on the Green Line tracks, which is an extra 2 minute walk.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Oct 17, 2012 -> 08:10 PM) Illinois may want to consider a new stadium. Arguably the 3 most consistent teams of the last 10 years or so all have newer facilities. OSU has Value City opened in 1998 Wisconsin has the Kohl opened in 1998 MSU, Breslin Center 1989 Illinois, Assembly Hall 1963. It's in the works. Or I should say a huge renovation is.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2012 -> 12:17 PM) Go look at a map of the Chicago area. You will find 35th and Shields pretty close to the middle. If you move the team to Orland Park or some such place... not centrally located anymore. Yup, lot of those people on the South side are going to games. Not centrally located for a lot of suburbanites, either. The Cubs already own the part of the city with the disposable income.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Oct 17, 2012 -> 12:11 PM) Somoene suggested moving the team to the burbs? I must have missed that. That would be incredibly stupid. The park as it is now, is centrally located, near all kinds of transit, and a quick trip from downtown. If you move it to a suburb, you help people in a few suburbs, and hurt everyone else. That would cause a huge drop in attendance.

QUOTE (IlliniKrush @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 12:45 PM) Apparently they might preserve the current contracts in initial years of the deal. Apparently preserving them by taking a reduced share in later years...so it's players paying players. Not exactly what they want to hear. Deal didn't exactly get NHLPA excited. Hopefully it's some sort of stepping stone, but we're not that much closer.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 07:23 PM) You are correct, but I don't think people want to look for a code. What I don't understand is why they require codes for the discount. If they are willing to discount it with a code, just discount it for everyone. I think the upper deck will always be problematic unless they either offer steep discounts or some other gimmick. There are some decent seats up there, and some real bad ones. I do think in the infield in the first few rows they are way better than downstairs in the corners or the outfield if your there to watch baseball. A huge problem with the upper deck is that you can't go downstairs at all. How many teams have this policy? I know they claim it's for safety and code and whatever, but we all knows it's BS, as it started after the incident on the field and all the fights that would happen in the UD. They said hey, let's keep the idiots upstairs. Going to the game with your kids and not being able to go downstairs and watch BP, etc. is going to make a difference. The food upstairs is also much different than downstairs. They've slowly brought stuff upstairs, but it's not on the same level.

We need to move those deer crossing signs !

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Oct 16, 2012 -> 11:55 AM) They'd still have to agree to take salary cuts of 25% across the board. Apparently they might preserve the current contracts in initial years of the deal.

Phillip Rivers, welcome to the center of attention this week. Up 24-0 at half, currently down 35-24 with 2 minutes left.

This may be the oddest week I've ever had. Going into the Sunday night game, I was down 84-24. He still had Mathews left. It was over, didn't even watch Sunday night though I had Rodgers in that game, and a few Monday night. 6 TDs and 40 points later, I was only down 20 going into tonight, Gates/Decker/McGahee, he has Mathews. Scoring bonanza in the 1st half, and I'm going to win comfortably, probably about 25-30 points. What makes it more ridiculous is he played Luck over Brady, as well as played Austin over Nelson. That's what you get for trying to be too cute with matchups.

I thought one reason that they put dynamic ticket pricing in was to lower prices as games got near and demand wasn't there. Clearly that didn't happen. Only thing they did was those deals, but dynamic pricing should bring down all prices.

QUOTE (ewokpelts @ Oct 12, 2012 -> 06:48 PM) you try getting to schaumburg on a wed night for a 7pm game. I have done just that. for a flyers game. took us well more than an hour to get there from the city. attendance would crater in the burbs. Um, OK. You try getting to the south side of Chicago on a Wed night for a 7pm game. Takes people well more than an hour to get there from the suburbs. I think you missed the whole point about the Cubs already owning the city as it is, might as well try to get the all the people in the suburbs. There's quite a few people within a 20-30 mile radius of somewhere like Schaumburg. Attendance is already cratering in the city.