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Exactly. There's no answer that can justify playing a veteran stop-gap like Capra over someone they say is part of the future.

Why are they playing veteran bottom of the barrel types in the majors over him? With the current roster, it wouldn't be hard to get him playing time.

How has Vaughn / Elko been doing since being demoted? Same question on Colston Montgomery.

That's likely the one guarantee - Getz will have endless time to rebuild the White Sox regardless of how the team performs.

He's not wrong. The team sells the fans that the only way to do this is to completely take it apart and put it back together, but this time with long-term sustainability. You don't hear of any commitment to be a significant free agent spender or that the players they draft (particularly pitching) will be retained if they draft well - but that goes back to the sustainability nonsense. They can continue to replenish without having to spend on elite free agents. Meanwhile, the White Sox are on Year 3 of a rebuild with no guarantee of any outcome and the next 1-2 years don't look to very promising with most of their young talent still developing.

He's been playing better in the last 10 games or so but has a very high pop-up rate. Is that accurate?

Luis Robert has no trade value right now. Even if he's traded, at this point, it's for, at best, salary relief, on a team whose payroll is already been gutted. The White Sox are not getting a top end prospect or even middle of the road prospect unless they pay for salary ( which they don't have a history of doing) or he suddenly becomes amazing in the next 50 games which also seems unlikely given how poor his performance has been for more than a year. White Sox may find a team who is willing to take him and hope he performs better in a winning culture, but trade value is out the door on this return.

Yes, but we don't even know if he can hit at the MLB level yet. Play him everyday and let's find out.

If Robert is healthy and playing well, wouldn't any contender from a larger market be interested? The Dodgers have a loaded farm system, but our last attempt to get talent resulted in Vargas, an injured IF and another middle of the road prospect who we will never hear from again. So far, Robert, outside of the Boston game on Saturday, looks awful. It's also 15 games into the season and April. A lot can change by June. It's just hard to see the White Sox getting a multiple high end prospects back for Robert. If they get a team's top #10 prospect and another in the top #20, I think that's the extent of it. Basically a couple of lottery tickets that may improve the overall depth of the organization, but probably don't much else.

I tend to agree that signing all of these end-of-bench players are just not needed. I'm guessing they are meant to more or less, fill out the roster and provide some level of veteran leadership. Thankfully, they only do these on 1 year deals. I would have preferred a few 1 year deals for players that they could potentially trade later, but these guys do not have much value.

And, desire.... If anything, they will trade Robert if they can get a return. At this point, the start of next year is going to be very bad, but it's expected with the lack of talent at the major league level. Things will gradually improve when they start to bring some of their better regarded prospects up, but there's no real need to give any multi-year deals right now to a team that's probably 2-3 years aways from being even close to average.

Jake Burger to Texas for 3 minor leaguers.

This guy was ok for the Cubs last year, but at 34 years old, he is unlikely to repeat that. I guess I just don't see the value in spending a dime on players like this. They should let Fletcher play, stop with the older end of the bench types

Are teams likely to give up top 100 offensive prospects this off-season? I don't think the White Sox should focus on specific positions as much as acquiring top talent so hopefully Getz won't settle for less talent because he wants a RF (as an example). I think they would want 2 top prospects but not sure if that will be doable

Obviously, injuries and performing less than expected could happen for any of the White Sox top prospects. We're seeing some concerns with Montgomery which is a huge concern given how thin the White Sox hitting prospects are, but, if they want to build around pitching, they need to develop all of these prospects and keep drafting them high to have more in the pipeline since they won't pay anyone who's good and we're only have any good young pitchers for 3-4 seasons before financial decisions are made. But....if they can develop pitching....big IF, but they do have talent AND they complement the offense with a mixture of young talent and veteran free agents (another big IF, AND probably won't add much this off-season), they can compete. Whether they win or stay competitive would depend on the health and success of their player development. There's no long-term strategy that is likely to be successful though if they aren't willing to spend on their own talent and impactful free agents. They are giving a false impression that they should only build through the minors...that's fine, and can be sustainable, but it's also near impossible to do for more than short stretches.

It's hard to have much confidence in the upside of several of these guys, but they have definitely improved the depth of available starting pitchers. Obviously, Schultz, Thorpe and Hagen (excluding Crochet because they are highly likely to trade him for an offensive player) are all projected to be top half of the rotation starters so this team is pretty loaded with options, but all of this is prospect humping for now. I do expect Cannon and Martin to be favorites for rotation spots to open next season along Thorpe. I am hoping that Hagen and Schultz are not part of the roster until at least May for contractual reasons (Hagen is not even a probability to pitch next season in the majors, there's just a chance he'll be here quick). I will give them credit though for rebuilding the young pitching on this roster although some of these guys will clearly not work out. It's just much better depth than they have had in recent memory.

White Sox rotation options for next season Missing anyone? Lots more depth, good overall potential, but probably 2 years away from being competitive with upside - Crochet (but likely to be traded)..maybe a player they receive in a trade for him. - Thorpe - Cannon - D.Martin - Sean Burke / Ky Bush / Nastrini/Eder - Schultz (after May) - Hagen Smith (maybe later in 2024) - Flexen (or some similar veteran)

Yep, play Vargas everyday also. He's probably going to be a starter next season at 3B (or moving him around some), but agree with your list.

Yeah, that's my concern for this upcoming off-season. More of these "veteran" type options to fill out a lineup and be leaders, etc. when, in reality, you're signing mediocre backup players and putting them in key roles. Again, I understand....to a point, why they wouldn't be signing players of any significance to big money deals next year IF they are expecting to lose 100 games....at the same time, I struggle with settling. I'm just asking that they (without knowing the actual free agent market) would consider adding players to begin to get the team moving in the right direction. You can do that without mortgaging the future.

I don't see the point of playing him with 20 games left. Just tell him to rest up and get ready for next season. Even if he plays DH and hits a HR or two, that doesn't change anything. He's been a bust and won't be here. They should prioritize playing time to Ramos and Baldwin...I guess I don't care if he plays over Sosa or Lopez, but I don't see any scenario where Moncada is back even if it's a minor league deal. I think they need to move on.

Has he said that? Technically, yes. They will probably sign a veteran starter or two that will be the equivalent of Flexen or Fedde. Guys that can't throw innings and/or who they think have a potential upside, but on team friendly 1 year deals preferably. I would think upgrading the offense with more than slap hitting fringe MLB options would be a priority, but they may sell us on guys like Quero and Montgomery being difference makers who will do that. I understand, to a point, that they don't want to spend big money on free agency in a year where they are still in full blown rebuilding mode, but things are so bad right now, if there's a player they can acquire who is not 30+, but is more in that 25-27 range who won't cost them upper end money (which eliminates them already), they should be looking to add players.

Yeah, I would be surprised if they spent this off-season. Without knowing who is available in trade or free agency, I think they should consider adding anyone who is younger and can contribute to the MLB roster. That may require them to spend money which would be a tall ask, but if there version of improvement is trading for more slap hitters with low upside who they hope can contribute, we're going to be in deep trouble again next off-season. I really struggle with this team telling us they need 3-5 years to rebuild. That shouldn't be acceptable.

My guess is that they will treat this off-season similar to this past one. Look for "value" signings on 1 year type deals and move any that produce at the trade deadline. Maybe the young pitching develops into a strength and we end the season feeling like the starting rotation will be ready to win in 2026, but unless they pivot to some degree, I really don't see them spending big (ever under current ownership), but next year even moreso.

Is there any reason to suspect that the White Sox will be an active player in free agency? Not signing cast-offs, but actual impact type players? Does a season this awful alter the outlook of the organization? Continue to build via the minor league system, but you can't have the worst major league team in history as a result. That doesn't seem like an unreasonable balance to strike.

The White Sox already eliminated him from candidacy since he's not currently in uniform. Obviously short-sighted. If Francona wants to return to managing, he'll have options. Even if the White Sox changed their minds, why would we expect the them to be more attractive than other options?