southsider2k5

Pretty sure a team coming off of a 41 win season with no significant improvements should have a zero percent chance at a playoff spot statistically.

Drop the tropes. You have lost your mind for months now on anyone who isn't Pro-JR and/or Pro-35th. If you want respectful and not angry/reflexive dialogue, start it your damned self. This tone is entirely set by you.

Look dude, we aren't stupid, and we all know you aren't either. Don't insult me by pretending I am too dumb to see through this BS. Despite getting a whole other post out on this topic, the next time you pull this stunt, you will be launched.

If they get to 70 wins next year it means a lot of key guys made big progress, because this isn't a team adding in free agency. That's actually a good thing and it might actually make this team worth adding to in a real way.

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I remember getting laughed at for saying the Tigers weren't that good...

You literally just commented. This entire post is a fully political post dressed up in a bit of aw shucks bullshit.

I am just impressed that this many people watched AND cared enough to rant about it.

At this rate payroll will be like 60 million next year, he'll maybe 65.

I totally get why attendance was up so much

Is it his 2nd arb year? That's like 6 to 8 million, and if we only have 10 to spend...

Actually you went from ranting about the White Sox future ownership and ownership structure back to the lease when you got challenged with the absurdity of your arguments. I think you missed that if the new owner pays for a new stadium, we don't need to worry about the ISFA anyway.

But we let you post anyway.

The ISFA has zero to do with ownership transfers. I know you are smarter than that.

And would rather hire half rate yes-men than bring in a superior product that might challenge him.

Because most of the dudes we are trading are flawed themselves. No franchise was paying up for a dude like Hauser. It does take two to tango.

Plus the risk/reward. Our fan base literally only shows up after long periods of winning. It's the very definition of a bandwagon fanbase, like it or not. What we did for the past 35 years absolutely, unequivocally did not work. The franchise did nothing to build a new and expanding fanbase at 35th and Shields, despite all of the plentiful parking. We see the 2025 model out there. This isn't like 1989 when we were literally the first franchise to build a new park in a long period of time, and couldn't have foreseen the shift. Today we can see the model for a getting fans to show up to the park even when the team is bad. It's right there in front of us. This isn't the Boomer era where 3 hours of baseball is enough. People want to make a day/evening experience out of this. They want dinner before hand, and drinks afterwards, with some entertainment in the middle. We see it all over baseball. At the absolute very least, even if they go back to the historic neighborhood, they have GOT to plow over some of these lots and do more than build a single game day bar. The answer is right in front of us. Something has to give, or what we have seen for the past few years will become more common place. Either you have a revenue base, or you serve as a minor league franchise for the Have's of MLB.

Wait, is this all because 2 private entities had private negotiations, and came together on a private agreement? Wild.

It's true, he does.

You can hold whatever opinions you like, but you insult everyone's intelligence by pretending like that this isn't exactly how Jerry and company got rich themselves. Hell he even used OPM for 80% of the purchase price of the White Sox, not in a corporation or loan, but quite literally private equity from unidentified and undisclosed private investors on behalf of which he acts to this day. It's a duck bro. You are quacking at a duck to protect another duck.

Which is why having a 3rd rate ballpark in a neighborhood with a poor reputation (fair or not, it exists) is a fair topic here.

Outside of 2024, this is the Sox lowest single season attendance since last century. Adding 41,000 people to the worst in the 2000's isn't really a reason to brag about prices and giveaways.

This isn't about "different perspectives" It is about a factual statement completely ignored and misrepresented. Again. Which is exactly why I bowed out before the inevitable meltdown, again.

Especially because Jerry got rich by the 1970s and 1980s version of private equity.

Uh huh, right.