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QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 12:35 PM) The strongest argument I have for why "Alexei at 3b" does not work: Average OPS of SS in major league baseball: .687 Average OPS of SS for Chicago White Sox: .625 Average OPS of 3b in major league baseball: .751 Average OPS of 3b for the Chicago White Sox: .624 Alexei at 3b basically just sets up the White Sox to continue to be far below average offensively at 3b. You can't just ignore his 1st half numbers and say "oh he'll repeat his 2nd half". He's put up a .677 OPS over the past 4 seasons, maybe you think "oh he'll just go back to doing that", but that's still well below average at 3b but closer to average at SS. If Alexei can't play SS any more, then his bat is below average at 3b by a lot and he's no longer a big league starter except on teams with a huge hole at 3b and strong offense elsewhere on the roster. This operates under the assumption that we have league average players waiting around to play, and that we are not playing them because of Alexei. It isn't about what the league average is, it is about what the White Sox can put out there. Do you believe that the combination of Sanchez or Saladino at SS, plus whatever we can field at 3B is better than what the poster is proposing, is the real question. If we had a league average 3B, we wouldn't need to have this discussion and could focus on who should play SS in 2016 exclusively.

QUOTE (southside hitman @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 12:32 PM) Thanks all for the kind words! The whole experience was a pleasure, these guys were all class and very enjoyable to talk to. Also, as a follow-up on what Spencer Adams said about his delivery, ESPN's Keith Law noted when he scouted Adams recently that he is now pitching from the third base side of the pitching rubber as opposed to the first base side like he did in high school. Law says that is better for his deception but worse for his arm, as he is coming across his body more and "cutting himself off." Concerning, but sounds like J.R. Perdew and Spencer are aware of it and it is something they are working on. FWIW, this is the exact same thing the Sox did with Chris Sale and his slider.

My Spanish is a bit rusty, but I think Noesi is coming back to the White Sox. https://instagram.com/p/7YIDvjQ9MNwIWgthgq7...7CCo-QQyepkTg0/

QUOTE (lasttriptotulsa @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 12:12 PM) From 2009 to 2014 Alexei put up fWARs of 2.0, 4.1, 4.1, 2.0, 3.2 and 3.2 which averages out to 3.1. I think it's a huge disrespect to Alexei to say he his career has been a disappointment. And considering the White Sox got him on a 4 year $5 million deal, he is one of the biggest steals if not of the Kenny Williams era, and maybe even of Sox history.

QUOTE (flavum @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 11:56 AM) Joaquin Andujar, 62. Good pitcher. Man on the mound for one of the worst calls in baseball post season history.

QUOTE (shipps @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 11:47 AM) LOL if this is true. Wow. With the NFL contract structure, I can't even hate on him for it.

QUOTE (Jenksismyb**** @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 11:33 AM) See I don't think either one of these statements is true. He's not GREAT. He's probably not GOOD. But the dude has a winning record and a playoff win. Not a lot of QB's have that. He makes plays. He doesn't make a ton of mistakes. I get that there's a lower ceiling with him, but so what? He does some good things, how's that not worth a 3rd string slot? I think the biggest problem is the baggage he brings with him. He takes away the spotlight from other players. He'd be a guy that you have to talk about constantly despite never seeing the field. I think that, above all, is why he's not on a roster. I think this is the most accurate thing. No coach wants to deal with those extra headaches unless he is better than everyone else, not just as good as everyone else. That is the reason Mike Vick is on a roster, and Tebow isn't. You will put up with the extra headache for someone who is really good. Mediocre? Not worth it. Michael Sam ran into the same problem.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 11:12 AM) While the last sentence may be true, the rest of this post wholesale ignores the past few years of history. You have a different crowd making most of the decisions now, and you can see in who they've drafted that their style has changed noticeably. It also ignores the now 3 new hitters we have on the roster who were completely developed by the White Sox, and who aren't even our top prospects.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 09:49 AM) Hahn should trade for him this offseason. Not because he'd be good for the Sox, but just so they won't have to face him anymore. That's got to be like a 2 win swing right there! And just put him on the bench all of the time.

QUOTE (bmags @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 10:14 AM) It was a good read on how organized spygate was, and I didn't read all of it to see the stuff on the rams, however: - To me it's annoying with the timing I can't help but find it to just be an NFL dump to espn to gain favor - Honestly, I am not sure I followed spygate that well, as I thought it was all about the Rams not about taping defensive signals. I'm a little surprised that is illegal. Otherwise why do coaches cover their mouths as they talk, or try to obscure the signals at all? If it is an NFL dump, it makes Goodell look like a bumbling idiot.

This thread exists because of Ryan f***ing Raybrun. God I hate that guy.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 07:17 PM) I don't know. What would happen it he would be replaced by a former player. Former Sox retreads just aren't working. The next guys in line are Bobby Thigpen, the bullpen coach, or Richard Dotson AAA pitching coach.

This case has been so fascinating. It reminds me a lot of OJ Simpson case in that the defenders are very probably guilty, but the prosecutions here just turned the cases into a disaster, and there was no way to convict.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 8, 2015 -> 07:33 AM) Dude, come on. COME ON. We all see this thread. So true.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 06:30 PM) If Eddy Alvarez, after 33 games at A+, is starting in the majors in 2017, either something has gone horribly wrong or a minor miracle has happened. I think he's an overlooked prospect because of his age by some, but that's an incredible jump to make. Frankly, if Eddy Alvarez makes it to the majors, it'll be a success. Yeah, people need to slow their roll on Alvarez. Let's have him do something at the upper half of the majors before we start talking about the majors.

QUOTE (oldsox @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 03:28 PM) Did they recognize you? Considering they let him in, I would say no.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 7, 2015 -> 09:52 AM) The White Sox win the division in 2002, 2003, 2004 and probably a couple other years I'm forgetting if they could've done exactly what the Cubs are doing this year: skullf*** bad teams. If it were 2002/3/4, the Cubs wouldn't be in the playoff hunt.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 07:16 PM) This will forever be known as the series that cost Greg his house Or three.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Sep 6, 2015 -> 11:38 AM) I kinda want the Cubs to get to the WS just to see the board implode. lol. I can't believe how many people here have the Cubs living rent free in their heads. Which is funny, because you are the one performing verbal fellatio on the team...

QUOTE (SoxAce @ Sep 5, 2015 -> 07:02 AM) FYI, Fulmer was most compared to Lincecum (who I like as a comparison alot) and Rodon with Price. Mike can figure out which pitcher he thinks is better if he wants, but I'll take a poor man's version of both. The draft even agreed with me. Rodon went #3 in a much stronger draft. If he had been out this year, he would have been #1. Fulmer slid to the sox at #7.

QUOTE (Y2HH @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 03:56 PM) This movie was so unbelievably hyped...it has a HUGE Internet "nerd" following, and it was flat out stupid. It's an old story that's been told over and over in FAR better ways. It seemed like it was trying to take the general idea of revolution of the poor and downtrodden from like a Hunger Games or Divergent, and then added the ending from Wall-E where the stupid humans stumble into the waiting earth.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 03:49 PM) Focusing too much on cutter caused his fastball to not be ready out of Spring Training? Also, I've said all year his mechanics are different than last season. He's pitching less over the top, which has caused his splitter to not have the same movement from last year. If you listen to the interviews with the Sox minor leaguers, and with guys like Chris Sale, the White Sox pitching mantra is always stand tall and pitch downhill. They don't really try to drop guys angles, they try to keep their arms up high.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 02:21 PM) Stats wise, Fulmer's fastball comes in harder than Sonny Gray's when he was drafted per scouting reports and Fulmer's numbers at Vandy are better than Sonny Gray's were. Both have generally similar knocks of being undersized and their motions are even somewhat similar. Fulmer's ceiling I see as comparable to Sonny Gray, who is in the top 5 in the Cy Young race in the AL this year. Whether he will make that ceiling I don't know, but you asked that standard. I think you are depending way too much on college stats, and not enough on scouting and stuff.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 02:14 PM) FWIW, I think you're's significantly underrating Fulmer here. Both Fulmer and Rodon have seriously dominant stuff, mid 90's fastball for Fulmer paired with power curveball in the mid 80s, both of them needed to work on a changeup as a 3rd pitch, Fulmer probably has a more violent motion than Rodon but that also makes him possibly harder for the hitter to pick up. Their senior year, Fulmer actually pitched more innings than Rodon, had a worse walk rate (2.8 per nine compared to 3.5) but Fulmer had a better K rate and gave up fewer hits per inning. Hell, Fulmer threw 30 more innings than Rodon and gave up fewer hits overall. Given the choice between the two yes, you take the lefty, but both of them are showing some absolutely dominant numbers and skills, and if you like K rates and shutting down hitters, Fulmer wins those stats. I think Fulmer's ceiling is around a #2 starter. I think Rodon's is a workhorse version of Chris Sale.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Sep 4, 2015 -> 12:51 PM) Not really, the expected WAR is about 1. Yes maybe the Sox can make a good pick, but the chances the guy ever even makes MLB is 50/50 at best. Kenny Williams like this post.