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I don't know that I have ever been so happy to see a thread closed in Soxtalk history!

Ah yes, another vintage Jerry Reinsdorf hardcore negotiation is in the books. To those who said it was too close not to happen, kudos. The team knew they could cave at anytime, and really not give up that much more, and they got away with it as usual. Welcome to being a legend in Chicago Mark Also the line for Kenny Williams apolgies starts here---> :

Bridge to Terrabithia was god awful. It was nothing like the previews.

QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 7, 2007 -> 10:15 PM) YES and YES, Damn why didn't you come out earlier, much better response than mine. This is business as usual. Call it what you want, but JR has given into fandom only a few times. Usually they centered around championship seasons or near championship seasons. We suck this year and its time to rebuild. They really don't want to spend money, they want young cheap talent, just like they always wanted. Yeah, I have been slacking... I am so ashamed

QUOTE(Soxy @ Jul 6, 2007 -> 11:47 AM) The best justification for current bad behavior is past bad behavior by someone else. We're not accountable to be good, only not worse than what our predecessors were. . . So are you honestly telling me the next Democratic President will not have his backers talking about how bad the Bush administration was? Not a chance. They'll throw that out there every chance they get.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jul 7, 2007 -> 03:32 PM) what the crap.... you come to PA and don't call? Its not like you were a little busy planning a wedding or something...

I was glad to see Redmond was OK.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jul 7, 2007 -> 09:10 PM) I have no clue how JR and KW think they can get the talent level back up again to be playoff caliber. QUOTE(quickman @ Jul 7, 2007 -> 09:27 PM) Fathom this is the same owner and GM that brought you the world series. The same principals applied then as they do now. The very best way to speak to the owner is not to go to the park. They are counting on you to go. Don't go and don't watch, otherwise the whitesox are run the exact same way as they were two years ago. In fact I am sure KW and JR are kicking themselves at signing konerko. Right now he is worthless. They won't make that mistake again. Good reply. I am not sure what people expect from the Sox, but I can think of one time in the history of Jerry Reinsdorf owning Chicago teams that he gave one player a s***load of money out of no where. Then again, that guy made he and his partners more money than they probably ever dreamed of. Hell, even if you look at the 2005 team, they made that team by making smart/cheap moves to maximize payroll. Jermaine Dye was brought in after injuries dirt cheap, no one wanted AJ, Tadahito started out looking for 3 years at 8 million per, and got 2 years at 2 million each. We got Uribe for Miles, Crede had about worn out his welcome. The entire Soxnation wanted Jon Garland shipped to Siberia. Bobby Jenks was claimed off of waivers, and Dustin Hermanson was laughed at when we signed him. My point is, no JR owned team goes around throwing money at problems. They know they can give MB just a tiny bit more at any time to get him back for four years, but they are going to make sure to maximize their gains on him. Why is everyone acting like this is a big surprise. Study your history, and this has been happening for almost 30 years. If you also look back, JR has also been the most successful owner the Bulls have ever seen, and the most successful owner the Sox have had in about 90 years. QUOTE(aboz56 @ Jul 7, 2007 -> 10:01 PM) I wouldn't blame Williams, I am sure Reinsdorf gets the final call. Duh. Any hate for Kenny Williams and John Paxson over contracts is misplaced. Blame ownership before you blame GMs.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 6, 2007 -> 03:22 PM) My favorite is still Hawk butchering the name of the site. http://www.futuresox.com/soxtalk/hawkshoutout.mp3 ^2 years ago today^ You all are welcome

Hopefully this kid has grown a pair, and is ready to go. Otherwise Friday is going to be an ugly night on here...

I know this won't be said, but both sides are playing some hardcore staredown games here. If this deal really doesn't happen, its pretty sad because of how close they really are. That being said, with it this close, I'll bet someone blinks.

Seriously, has anyone picked up what changed for Aardsma from April to June?

Not everyone can interview like Jim Bullard or Jeff Bajenaru.

Awesome. Its nice to see this place getting some E-props.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jul 5, 2007 -> 12:23 AM) OK, I feel better. I'd have really been cheesed off if he wasn't driving a hybrid vehicle. Quick fact, a Prius at 100 mph gets about 20 miles to the gallon. My Impala at 80 got about 32 , yeah me the enviormentalist!

Stat of the day The Sox were 6-21 in games in which five players other than Podsednik or Erstad led off entering play Tuesday.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 10:53 AM) Who's pitching the night game? It will either be Gavin Floyd or Nick Massett

QUOTE(LosMediasBlancas @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 01:05 PM) I've never owned a digital camera because the technolgy is tough to keep up with. I won't drop $500.00 on a camera only to have them come out with a better one the following week. In a few months, camera models are damn near obsolete. You don't have to go that far to get a good camera. Hell instead of going for the highest megapixels, go back a couple, and you can get all of the same features, with still a great resolution. I still use my 4 MP camera, and get excellent shots. You don't need 10 MPs to get a nice camera.

Happy Independance Day all! Take a second to remember all of our boys, past and present, who have made this 231 years possible. Now go out and be good American's and blow something up!

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 12:40 PM) Clinton's level? Bush Sr. pardoned all of the Iran-Contra guys. Ford pardoned Nixon. How about bribery for a pardon? I guess that would make Bush not quite at Clinton's level if you want to be technical about it then... Bush just commuted him to keep him quiet, and not a full pardon for cash, details.... QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 12:37 PM) OK, Kap. What's your argument here? Libby was found guilty of five felony counts, including perjury and obstruction of justice by a jury of his peers in Federal Court, and sentenced within guidelines by a Judge appointed by President George W. Bush. Some of the President's reasons for his commutation are inane. Good, solid citizens get convicted of first offenses all the time, many for crimes much less serious than what Libby was charged with, yet they haven't had their jail time commuted. Sandy Berger pleaded guilty to one misdemeanor count of unauthorized removal and retention of classified information. Why did the prosecutor agree to the deal? I suspect that he figured he didn't have the evidence to convict of Berger of anything else. The Judge could have sentenced Berger to a year in prison, but she didn't. She did increase his fine from $10K to $50K. Along with the probation, community service and loss of security clearance, Berger got stiffer punishment for a misdemeanor than Libby got for five felonies. Why are you surprised that people in the Democratic party are upset by the commutation? Do you have a materially better argument than, "It's always different"? Well the thing that made the Berger prosecution a little harder was that most of the evidence was destroyed by Sandy, against Federal law.

QUOTE(iamshack @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 01:47 AM) Once again, Javy is pitching better than he has in years. He finally looks like he may be fulfilling what we thought he could be.... This is such a shame- our top 3 are absolutely playoff-caliber pitchers right now.... Our top 3 pitchers have eras of 3.70 or LOWER, wow.

QUOTE(sox4lifeinPA @ Jul 4, 2007 -> 08:45 AM) Thanks buddy. We stayed up last night and opened all of our presents. Good times. And by opening up presents you meant... Oh. Don't worry you'll get the hang of it...

Oh sweet Jesus, he's almost legal Happy Birthday

Congratulations Alex, enjoy the life together.

Its too bad Bush had to stoop to Clinton's level. Every chance he has had to stay above the game, he has failed. Libby should have served his time, just like Rich and most of the Clinton administration should have. A crime is a crime, is a crime.