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Its amazing that half of the draft is busts. That is not a very good percentage, and it does make the Sox look a little better.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 12:51 PM) How about once it hits 12 games back? 111 games left to play and they are 7.5 games out. Stop with all the doom and glook. They are bound to hit better based on their past history. The bullpen will be taken care of. Jerry Owens looks like the boost needed at the top of the order. The starting pitching still loooks very strong. Clevelands bullpen is not all that great and Detroit's closer just got rocked. The other top teams in our division has holes too, the Sox just have to get on a little roll. What if the Sox are 3.5 or 4.5 out at the all-star break - do you really want to start breaking up the team and looking towards the future? That would suck. Weren't the Twins like 12 games out, behind the Tigers, Sox, and Indians last year with 3 hurt pitchers - Radke, Silva, and Liriano and had Tony Batista playing 3B for them last year? Yet they still came back to not only make the playoffs, but win the division? It would just suck if we actually had a chance to win something and decided to cash it all in so we can look towards the future. They are also only 5 games out of the wild card spot with a s***load of games still left against two of the teams ahead of them.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 12:44 PM) How long do we keep making our #1 priority be 2007? Are you saying to white flag 2007?

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 09:41 AM) Tampa Bay wants a relief pitcher for Elijah Dukes if the other team is willing to put up with him. His price would be pretty low right now and could probably be had for McDougal. Would you do it? Not a chance. As tenuous as the team could be right now, a stupid self-centered prick like Dukes would be the final nails in the coffin for this team. I would be interested to see how the future turns out, but I would bet Dukes ends up being a guy who never plays for a team that wins it all. Guys like him destroy teams, not help them, no matter what their numbers say.

QUOTE(fathom @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 12:04 PM) I'd have no problem with more strike outs if Fields can hit more doubles and walk more. Crede is having an incredible unproductive year at the plate. And don't forget that Fields will also give us more speed on the bases, and break up the 3-7 plodders this team has. What about Fields long swing and horrible strike out numbers makes you think he will out hit what Joe Crede is doing now? The Sox rookie hitters have a terrible history of adjusting to the majors, and that includes guys with much more effecient swings than Josh has. He might well be better in the future, but for 2007, I don't see where anyone would think he is going to be better than what we have now, especially when you factor in defense. Good god with as bad as our pitching has been, I shutter to think what they would look like without some one of Crede's calibur at 3B.

I had to laugh when I heard the soundbyte of Hillary wanting to raise the corporate tax rate in the United States. People do realize beyond the portrayal of things is that the reality is that United States actually has the second HIGHEST corporate tax rate IN THE WORLD's industrial nations. Even more ironic is that countries around the US at the top of the charts have, or are, CUTTING their business taxes to attract more investment in the country. http://www.taxfoundation.org/news/show/1466.html I am not quite sure how you can portray yourself as a protector of American jobs, when one of your campaign goals is to make it more expensive for companies to do business in the United States. She does realize that higher taxes mean there will be an even bigger corporate flight out of the US than is going on now right? Good god, and if you throw in stupid mistakes like Sarbines Oxley, which is not only driving IPOs and stock listings out of the US, but has actually accelerated CEO salaries instead of slowing them, and it is a wonder there are still jobs left in this country at all.

Well Frank would fit perfectly in the middle of our line up right now... His numbers and Konerko's are almost mirror images of each other except for walks.

QUOTE(WhiteSoxfan1986 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:54 AM) He would do better than that, and at least he knows how to take a walk, unlike Crede. The problem is it's tough to trade Joe when his value is at a peak low. What about Fields says that he will do better than that? Will the extra walks taken balance out the extra runs allowed by Fields at 3B?

For the love of God, pull the panties out of the crack of your butt. There can't be someone babysitting for requests 24-7. It'll get done, when it gets done.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 11:06 AM) I disagree. I think he could easily hit over .200 with several walks and of course the k's. So are the extra strikeouts and significant drop off in defense worth a few extra walks? Especially when Crede has a history of being a decent hitter.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 10:26 AM) Regardless... how much worse than Crede can Fields be??? Please trade JOE CREDE! Fields would probably be hitting about .150, striking out 35-40% of the time, and not fielding nearly as well as Joe.

QUOTE(southsideirish @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 08:36 AM) So those that don't want negative stuff have to deal with crazy ass nonsensical trade proposals/speculations? Come on - there has to be a happy medium here. Common sense must rule somewhere. That's the fun thing about having a non-dictated message board... People are free to be stupid, and some take great advantage of it.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 09:16 AM) seriously at this point im shipping out Joe Crede and seeing if our spects are the real deal and can help us moving forward. Is there really any doubt that Fields could come up and hit 210-230? I'll be really honest here and say I doubt it. Maybe a year, two, or more down the road, but not in 07. He has too many holes in his swing, and the Sox rookie have a terrible history of having long swings that don't adapt well to the majors.

Aw, here's some affirmations little buddy, you look like you need them.

So you are saying Clemens might be headed to the Sox bullpen?

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 04:13 PM) Enough with the asinine trade speculation. If I have to read Dye and Crawford in the same sentence again I'm going to lose it. New rule, if you have no idea how the trade market works, have absolutely no clue what a players value is or can't comprehend the fact that some teams have no use for certain old, expensive soon to be free agent players then you are not allowed to make up trade proposals. Remember all of those rants about "this is a message board" when people complained about all of the concentration on negative stuff... this is soooo karma's payback.

The Bartman incident.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jun 1, 2007 -> 10:54 AM) Yeah, newer "horror" movies are about copious amounts of gore, quick cuts, and shaky camera work. Not scary, and not good cinema.

QUOTE(FlaSoxxJim @ Jun 4, 2007 -> 06:41 AM) A liberal application of WD40 works as well, and shouldn't harm the paint. Pfft. That's your solution for everything

QUOTE(Al Lopez @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:56 AM) I know nothing about the shortstop, but I'm for any trade that lets me say "Hu's on short." Thanks for the laugh. It was very welcome

A nice laugh out of a trade proposal in the Dye for Abreu thread QUOTE(Al Lopez @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 07:56 AM) I know nothing about the shortstop, but I'm for any trade that lets me say "Hu's on short."

QUOTE(EvilJester99 @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 09:56 PM) Thinking on it... does Mac even have any options? Phil Rogers mentioned that he did in the Sunday Trib QUOTE(AWhiteSoxinNJ @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 10:12 PM) MacDougal for Rowand kidding..... Rogers also mentioned this deal as a possibility.

QUOTE(StrangeSox @ Jun 3, 2007 -> 08:38 PM) Private organization. Different rules. It this place a wholey owned private bar? Would it be OK if they just changed the name on the wall from "bar" to "club"?

Garza has been backlisted for criticizing the Twins organziation for making him change his style of pitching. Just call him Brian Anderson.

Anyone notice the final score of the Cubs game yesterday without Pinella around? It might be coincidence, but it really seems to me like the problem isn't Zambrano or Barrett in that clubhouse, its Pinella.