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If Jon Garland had hit the open market this season, he would have been looking at a 6 or 7 year deal, with at least $10 million a year, probably more (maybe way more). The guy is a workhorse at the very least. A guy like Loiaza who is older, and puts up worse career numbers just got a 3 year deal at 7 million per season. Loiaza in the last 5 seasons has put up ERAs under 5, only twice. Even if Garland "regressed" to his form of the prior 3 seasons, he has averaged 200 innings and won double digits every year, in a hugely hitters ballpark... that would all add up to AT LEAST what Kris Benson after 04, probably more because teams would look at Jon's 05 season and think that they could bring him back to that. Hell Oakland just did that with Esteban, on much less evidence and potential of his ever returning to his incredible form. Garland is a $10 million pitcher at the VERY least in today's market. If he goes out in 06 and keeps his ERA under 4 again, we could be talking about a $15 million per year pitcher, on a long term contract, to a team like the Yankees, Red Sox, or whatever flavor of the month GM was overspending at the moment.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 03:20 PM) They probably mean he won't be offerred arbitration. He's a free agent, his option was declined. He can't be released. the only option the Sox really had was to work out a deal to have Frank decline the arbit offer so that they could keep negotiating... Short of that, unless Frank hangs out until May 1st, we have seen the last of Frank Thomas in a Sox uniform, because the deadline is quickly upon us (Dec 7th I believe)

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 02:12 PM) The upper $80 millions isn't $90 to $100 million though. It could just mean $87-$88 million. The Sox also said they would barely go over their $63 million figure of 04 for the 05 season... The Sox are notorious for not putting all their cards on the table, and you all know this... Plus from what I understand we are already sitting at about $87-88 million if you factor in respectable raises to AJ, Crede, and Jon...But, nice try at nitpicking.

QUOTE(SSH2005 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 01:54 PM) It was $75 million. http://asp.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/sa....aspx?year=2005 Rick Hahn was on the Score and said that the 2006 payroll could be in the upper $80 millions. That's nothing... I have been saying that for months http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?sh...49entry925849

Go to the Soxtalk main page, and then scroll down... Its underneath Sex Lies and Politics... Its new, we just added it over the weekend.

Try the swapmeet board and ask people who have hotel packages if they are going to have an extras they would be willing to sell you. With each hotel package people get 4 passes, many times with only 2 people staying in the room.

QUOTE(TLAK @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:07 AM) Hopefully this thing shows up. I added 2006 to a chart I made last year to show how dramatically the White Sox had changed the structure of the team over the off season. In 2004 the pitchers accounted for only 1/3 of the payroll but in 2005 they got about half of it. That percentage holds true for 2006 with about 51% of money on the mound. So the balance of the team -after the Konerko signing and switching out Thome for Everett and Thomas- remains true to the winning formula of 2005. Pitch well and execute. Interesting graphs, but everything I read had the 2005 payroll at about 75 mil. I am not sure what is missing though...

Any talk of what Garland turned down? I will reserve judgement until I see those numbers. I am really curious to see if Jon was looking for more money, more years, or both...

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 05:38 PM) Not much for the Cubs. There are a few Bears boards. I've long wondered if there would be interest in opening up other boards specific to the Bears and Bulls. Heck if there is serious interest, there is no reason we can't set up sister boards to this one, right? Something like Bullstalk or Bearstalk or something like that? Starting off it wouldn't be too big, so it wouldn't be expensive to have hosted, and it wouldn't be too hard to throw up the basic format for the board. The hardest part would be putting posters on the board.

QUOTE(mreye @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:59 PM) I think the title of this thread is funny. Definately a "quote" of the month....

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:39 PM) Southsider, It's not cause he's an anti-semite. It's cause he hates black people. Doesn't anyone listen to Kanye West anymore? Seriously... Someone obviously needs to check out this site for some tips... HELP GEORGE END INTERNET ADDICTION!

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:16 PM) Cause I always accidentally bump into the people wearing camo at the mall. "accidently" sure, right... :headshake

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 12:40 PM) I would say that there's another issue in that thanks to AIDS drugs, that disease is at least under some level of "Control" in this country - it's not growing exponentially any more, and only certain groups, which the media doesn't care about anyway, are really still having problems (see above post). It's a lot harder to get U.S. citizens to care about people dying who aren't citizens of this country. We all know that. Right now the people being slaughtered by this virus are mainly in Africa and Asia. Our government has decided it has other priorities...foreign aid tends to not go over well with the U.S. populace (polls tend to show that significant minorities or even majorities of the people think a huge portion of the U.S. government's money goes to foreign aid, when it's well below 1%), and every time there's talk of forcing drug companies to cut their prices overseas, we're hit with the old "but we need that money to develop new drugs" canard. Actually world wide the declines in infections rates that we were seeing have been reversed and they are back on the rise again. As AIDS has slipped from the front pages, it seems to have slipped out of peoples minds again.

Are the Bruins clearing cap room?

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 11:09 AM) The wife did some major chucking this morning....I felt bad for her, but what can I do?? If I went in there we'd both by chucking. She feels nauseous a lot, but it's only the second time she has been sick. I guess there's a little Chaos inside her... hahahaha That should only last through the first trimester...

Nevermind. Forget it.

Pinned, because I agree with Soxy

QUOTE(Texsox @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 09:28 AM) New York Times Link Instead of heading to the Doctors office, I wonder if we could just web cast a session, form a message board to discuss treatment, maybe post some links to addiction recovery sites . . . And then have an extended discussion thread about how this is George Bush's fault for underfunding internet addiction research because he is an anti-semite.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:27 AM) For some reason, the GTA thing looks cheesy to me. But there's a lot of you that like it. I love the GTA franchise. I don't have the last one, but I have had almost all of the rest of them, and as long as you don't mind the obvious attention getting brutality, its kinda fun.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Dec 1, 2005 -> 07:29 AM) Let's see. All people from Fort Wayne, Indiana are dolts. All dolts are from Fort Wayne, Indiana. Therefore, it's a dolt's birthday! Happy Birthday! ^^^^ Everybody sing... It's a Hoosier thing!!! Happy Birthday Zach

QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 08:14 PM) Yes but I am saying Kenny would've never done it even if he didn't get hurt. At least IMHO. If Frank had been healthy, there would have been no need for Jim Thome, and none of this would matter.

QUOTE(joeynach @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) In 2003 i think we started at $58 mil then added due to the everett and alomar trades. 2003 was more like $51 million. The Everett and Alomar trades didn't add payroll, we got money from their respective teams inexchange for prospects esentially.

Interesting quote out of the TSN version of the story... I wonder who the 6 teams are?

QUOTE(whitesoxin' @ Nov 30, 2005 -> 03:54 PM) I am trying to do a paper on the NBA and the dress code. I am having trouble finding information on Jason Williams and his troubles. Did he shoot someone? Did he get murdered? Also, if anyone has links to articles about NBA players being arrested/fined for possession or usage of drugs, please tell me. Thanks. Your first problem might be that his first name is Jayson.