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I do think some of these other guys can carve out a major league existence. Sosa is the type of guy who can carve out a 10 year type of career between starting and bench, and bouncing around a field with his bat. Again, the type of guy who is if he is your starter, you would be looking to upgrade, but also not enough IF talent to go around, so he will survive. Hell if half of the guys who have played IF for the Sox the past few years are still around, that should tell you right there. I think Chase will probably peak out as a low level starter, but he could also be a solid utility guy Baldwin is definitely a swiss army knife type of guy. Once he learns consistency, he can stick around forever. If the bat comes around, he is a middle tier type of guy. With the pitchers, it Burke and Cannon are pretty well showing what I thought they were going into the season, probably #4 to 5 starters, with #3 potential in a good year. Shane Smith we definitely need to see how he bounces back. Is the league figuring him out, is he tired, or is it some of both. Grant Taylor obviously has a big time arm and needs to learn consistency, but also if he is going to be even a closer, that is a huge loss for the rotation of the future, as he was projected as a front to middle stud.

This. If he isn't a 3rd baseman, he becomes the type of 1B that you are pretty quickly to upgrade on, because his bat isn't 1B good. It is 3B.

Regardless of what we think of it, the fact remains he is worth a ton more as a starter, and a ton less as a reliever. I always felt the same about Pallette, and it isn't that deep. Someone who is playing every day, or starting every 5th day is way more valuable, and should be ranked as such. Even the best closer is only going to log 60 to 70 innings a year.

Realistically, by the time you pay taxes, agents, and everything else, about half a players career earnings are gone before they ever see them.

That might well depend on which players the Sox target in deals. Based on how they have drafted and where their kids on in the minors, they seem to be looking young, but that doesn't mean that some guys who are out of options, or up against the Rule 5 wall couldn't have some value over guys with control for teams sending out players and needing roster spots next year.

I am just thrilled that the improvement in this deal has been directly related to Getz finally having the stones to let the kids play more this year. The worst stretches have been when they chose to let their free agent dumpster dives have run. The kids are getting consistent playing time finally, and lo and behold, the world didn't end. Are their struggles, absolutely, but it isn't like they were replacing all stars. I still don't see much in the way of long term starters outside of Colson and the Catchers when it come to position players, but that we all kind of knew.

I have no idea how to parcel out the trade and definitely choose to focus more on who we got (even if as a package) versus where they came from.

If Grant Taylor is a reliever, he is 10 to 15 slots too high.

This is what mid rotation ceiling looks like on a bad day.

It's also worth mentioning that when I talk about people trashing players this is a GREAT example

So far we have about a league average starter who has washed out of his primary defensive position and prone to looooooong slumps.

Gowens was pretty old for his levels where he was dominating. I know he was basically "average" for age, but that is skewed by guys who aren't very good and stuck. The guys who are "good" are usually young for their level.

The last was said, Paulie had zero interest in that kind of stuff.

I think despite the disappointment in the return, both initially, and how they have since preformed, they did sell at his peak value. We can definitely think the return was too low, but he did at least time the deal right. Vargas, outside of a short bender, has been a large disappointment overall. Perez started off insanely hot, and faded hard, sitting at a .726 OPS this season now. April was a .912 OPS, since then .700, .612, and .642, Albertus was acquired hurt, stayed hurt, and has play a bit over a weeks worth of games in the last full year.

That's almost exactly what Rule 5 is. And if it doesn't work, you literally set them loose on the street.

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For the record, we are about 2/3 of the way through the season, so on Fedde's $7.5 million salary, a claiming team would be on the hook for about $2.5 mil.

The will need to fill innings, but I suppose they could be thinking of the payroll and if they might be getting an arm or two back in these deals to replace the guys going out.

This is EXACTLY why you sell high on Houser, Civale, Altavilla, Tauchman, and anyone else who gets a bite after a resurgance. I have no idea if there are still teams interested in them all, but SELL SELL SELL MORTIMER!

I assume that includes the 5%?

I wonder if this also means they count interntional service time after age 25. For example if you play 4 years of MLB and 2 years in Japan, that equals 6 seasons, and you now are past arb and a free agent.

Sportrac is what I went off of looking for future contract obligations. I have no idea who is the most accurate or dependable.

They technically control both of those seasons with options, if they so desire.

The funny thing is I had the opposite reaction. What is the coaching staff doing that a bench coach exists without your franchise player having any idea having any idea who he is. WTF did Charlie Montoyo spend his time doing if he wasn't trying to do everything he could to make Luis Robert a Hall of Famer? Even if Luis Robert didn't want his help, for some weird reason, dude still should have been present enough.

I think people really underestimate how important not having a local TV contract was to the Sox this year.