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1B/3B/DH Matt Davidson & RHP Nate Jones to the Rockies for OF Raimel Tapia* & LHP Breiling Eusebio UT Yolmer Sanchez# & C Welington Castillo# to the Rockies for Jon Gray OF Avisail Garcia to the Phillies for LHP David Parkinson

Agreed, I have it as Jimenez, Robert, Basabe, Gonzalez, Rutherford, Adolfo, Steele

I personally think BA and Fangraphs phoned it in. Walker is a solid prospect in his own right but a switch hitting + defensive outfielder already at AA as a 21 year old is beyond a stretch.

Id rather trade Castillo as catching is so thin and sign Ellis to back Narvaez with Seby down in AAA. I think a Sanchez + Castillo for Jon Gray is realistic.

Personally I would love the sox to go all in on Harper. offer 10years 33m but font load and get opt outs at 4/5/6 45M 40M, 35M 33M. 38.5M AAV for the first four years.

I get that but even steamer is only projecting him to be half as bad next year, defensive seasons are such small sample sizes. In the larger trend Harper is a slightly below defender in right field, i'm more inclined to believe that trend will continue when he is focusing on just RF and his contract season is off his mind.

this seems more like a blip than a trend, he spent a fair amount of time in CF this year and i'm sure that didn't help

I like the idea of targeting Kyle Seagar as a distressed asset (2019: $19M, 2020: $19M, 2021: $18M 2022 Team Option: $15M) from the mariners if they're really going to sell off. Maybe something like Burger + Flores with cash coming back from the Mariners

thanks, if Donaldson could come cheaper even better. Additionally id sign the likes of AJ Ellis and Drew Pomeranz to minor league deals with real money and invites to ST

Here is my updated thoughts, this will continue to evolve as the off season drums on. Sign Harper for 330M AAV of 33M, with opt outs at 4-5-6 and front loaded to get the opt out after 4. Sign Donaldson for 54M AAV of 18M, have him start at 3B and if need be in the future transition him to 1B/DH Sign Kikuchi for 40M AAV of 10M, Trade Sanchez & Castillo to the Rockies for Jon Gray. Both Sanchez and Gray have three years of control Castillo has one with a reasonable option. This is a classic both teams dealing from depth trade. Trade Matt Davidson & Nate Jones to the rockies for Raimel Tapia & Breiling Eusebio. Davidson has 4 years of control left and could be a cost effective monster in that park. Tapia appears to need a change of scenery and has 5 years of control. Jones for a non ranked interesting arm seems to be the going rate. Non-tender Avisail Garcia DH - Palka* (PRE) C - Narvaez* (PRE) 1B - Abreu (16M) 2B - Moncada# (PRE) SS - Anderson (1.4M) 3B - Donaldson (18M) LF - Jimenez (PRE) CF - Tapia* (PRE) RF - Harper (33M) C - Zavala (PRE) IF - Rondon (PRE) UT - Garcia# (1.9M) OF - Cordel (PRE) SP - Rodon* (3.7M) SP - Lopez (PRE) SP - Giolito (PRE) SP - Gray (3.2M) SP - Kikuchi* (10M) CL - Burdi (PRE) SU - Fry* (PRE) SU - Hamilton (PRE) MR - Bummer* (PRE) MR - Burr (PRE) LO - Frare* (PRE) LR - Ruiz (PRE) Roughly 70.9M for the starting line up, 3.4M for the bench, 17.9M for the rotation and 3.5M for the pen for a total of 95.7M. 96.7M when you factor is Peavy's million. for some context here is the sox recent total payrolls 18 - 71.8 17 - 86.3 16 - 129.7 15 - 118.8 14 - 89.2 13 - 111.7 12 - 108.9 11 - 130.6

I think when you look at everything, the angels, phillies and cards all fit the bill for having the money, not being up against the cap and the need. Sox fit that bill as well but maybe Machado finds the those other options and their windows more appealing.

I would love to see the following happen, especially since it appears Moncada is moving to 3B Sign Harper - 10/300, multiple opt outs and front loaded Pollock - 4/68 17M AAV Grandal - 3/40.5 13.5M AAV, possibly a 4th year with a mutual option 5M buyout. Pomeranz - 1 year 8M club option with 2M buy out Trade A. Garcia + Castiilo (+4.5M) + Rutherford/Basabe/Gonzalez to the Rockies for Jon Gray & Colton Welker 25 Man Roster DH - Palka* C - Grandal# 1B - Abreu 2B - Sanchez# SS - Anderson 3B - Moncada# LF - Jimenez CF - Pollock RF - Harper* SP - Rodon* SP - Lopez SP - Giolito SP - Gray SP - Pomeranz* C - Narvaez* UT - Rondon UT - Garcia# OF - Engel CL - Burdi SU - Fry* SU - Hamilton MR - Bummer* MR - Burr LO - Frare* MU - Jones

Looking forward to dreaming on Adley Rutschman, Bobby Witt & Shea Langliers, as other names rise with helium and find their way into the mix.

Is Palka destined to become the next Chris Davis? age 26 seasons Davis Palka Palka's second half

I enjoy Kiley & Eric, but their last sox top prospect list was shall we say lacking to put it nicely and their refusal to refocus on Cease reminds me of Law's inability to change on Sale.

So......can we officially bequeath a rain_____ or storm____ moniker for Kopech?

My bad I didn't realize the de-escalation of his option.

I just don't see it, He hasn't been healthy and his option is more than the purposed bullpen (4.6M), his buy out is 1.2M. I'm more inclined to believe they either buy him out or trade him

How could you forget Bummer? Sox pen is going to be exciting next year; could be something special. Hopefully Burdi gets healthy down in the AFL ready to break camp at the start. CL - Burdi SU - Fry* SU - Hamilton MR - Bummer* MR - Burr LO - Frare* LR - Ruiz next year's whole bullpen should cost roughly $3,745,000. and that doesn't take into account Covey / Fulmer / Danish / Guerrero as well

Tuned in for vmart beating fry stayed for the matty d special. 2019 is going to be a lot of fun.

If there were odds given for Machado vs. Harper, I'm with you I'm more inclined to believe Manny comes here. Keuchel will be 31 by opening day, on the other hand Corbin will be 29 for the majority of next season. I'm not against getting a vet for the bullpen but Kimbrel is going to command a lot of money for an area the sox have shown an ability to excel at. Narvaez is certainly becoming a dude but his defense and framing(104th) are so bad, his arm is solid but thats about all he has going for him behind the dish; I view him as a luxury as a back up but a suspect as a starter. With such a young staff across the board focusing on someone like Grandal would be a boon, top 3 in framing and offense.

it should but it wont. Having said that I would hope that the white sox spend big this offseason, we're going to likely have a protected pick and our opening day payroll should be right around 18M before ARB for Abreu, Avisail, Rodon, Yolmer, Leury & Xavier. I want to see the sox go after Harper or Manny and land one of them. Additionally I think Corbin and Grandal should be high on the list all told add about 70M in AAV to the payroll. With Machado With Harper DH - Delmonico* DH - Delmonico* C - Grandal# C - Grandal# 1B - Abreu 1B - Abreu 2B - Moncada# 2B - Moncada# SS - Anderson SS - Anderson 3B - Machado 3B - Sanchez# LF - Jimenez LF - Jimenez CF - Leury# CF - Leury# RF - Garcia RF - Harper* SP - Corbin* SP - Kopech SP - Rodon* SP - Giolito SP - Lopez CL - Burdi SU - Fry* SU - Hamilton MR - Bummer* MR - Burr LO - Cedeno* LR - Fulmer C - Narvaez* UT - Sanchez# or Rondon UT - Rondon or Cordell OF - Engel

People thought the same thing about David Price and look where he is.

if its 6-8 that is fine as long as we're seeing the kids develop. Additionally I just want the pick to be protected and the sox to spend real money this off season. The sox tentative payroll before ARBis roughly 18-19M that is not including ARB raises for (Abreu, Avisail, Yolmer, Leury, Xavier & Rodon). I figure they'll opt out of the club option for Jones and Shields will be bought out. With out exaggeration they could easily afford to sign 3 of the top free agents in Machado, Corbin and Grandal at a combined AAV of $70M and be fine, that doesn't even come close to hitting their all time high of 142 in '16.