Dick Allen

Konerko's 7 day DL stint cannot be retroactive.

QUOTE (soxfan49 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 05:52 PM) You don't know if the owners care? They spent $100 million on Reyes, close to $30M on Bell, close to $60M on Buehrle, and made Ozzie a high paid manager. They're also paying Josh Johnson a lot of money. What more do you want them to do? I think they were dedicated to winning this year so they could really cash out. The players signed have backloaded contracts. Its going to be hard for Loria to get a premium price when he has 17k a night next season and the payroll only going higher with the talent level only going lower.

QUOTE (staxx @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 05:48 PM) I highly disagree with your take on Danks. He has an par bat with plus speed and defense... Wise is AWFUL with the bat and shaky in the outfield minus a couple spectacular plays. Danks is not going anywhere, sorry. Danks' bat is subpar or he'd be a starting OF in the major leagues.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 10, 2012 -> 12:27 PM) The whole risk with Flowers at DH thing is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay overblown. First of all, the issue only comes up if Flowers is in the game at DH and AJ gets hurt mid-game or is ejected (neither of which have happened more than a few times his entire career with the Sox). And even if it does happen, Flowers can still catch, but we lose the DH slot for the remainder of the game... and late in the game it would be pinch hitters anyway. It is really not a huge risk, at all, especially for a few days. Plus, how the bench guys have hit, pitchers hitting isn't much of a downgrade. If the bases are empty have them take 2 and then swing as hard as they can. With runners on, bunt.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 02:43 PM) About 3 weeks until Pierre and Danks can be on the roster at the same time If the Sox do have to DL Konerko, I really hope they don't bring up Morel. I'm sure it would be Jackson or Johnson.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 9, 2012 -> 02:25 PM) So the 2005 bench basically had 4 players with a higher OPS than anyone on the Sox bench (not counting Olmedo's 1-3)? I don't think anyone is asking for the Sox to go out and acquire superstars for the bench, but it sure seems like guys like Fontenot and Pierre would be significant upgrades over the players they'd be replacing on the bench. The way the team is set up, the back up OF is going to have to be able to play all 3 positions. Juan Pierre in LF is bad enough, in CF or RF, oh my. And I'm still not seeing Fontenot as an upgrade. He doesn't hit with authority, has never played in the AL. His projected production has Orlando Hudson-level written all over it.

There's a reason bench players are bench players. Yes, the Sox bench hasn't hit at all, but chances are anyone acquired to be a bench player isn't going to be a huge upgrade.

Angels are 0-3 in Zach Greinke starts.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Aug 8, 2012 -> 03:22 PM) If he gets to 40 bombs, which he will, he is comeback Player of the Year. Dunn has always been one of my favorite players. When the Sox got him I was ecstatic. I honestly think that I'd almost rather him not be on the team though sometimes. He helps the team win games but I can't deal with the amounts of stupid that a player like Dunn brings upon White Sox fans. I just don't know if I can read about Dunn being bad at baseball for the next two years. Man, I love how the internet lets the stupid be stupid with no consequence. Rios is comeback player of the year. God were people stupid when he hit .159 last year and sat out at the end so he wouldn't qualify for the worst average of all time, and they thought he was bad at baseball.

I think this Danks' news is pretty close to best-case scenerio.

QUOTE (Wagz @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 03:19 PM) Ya but that may have happened in the past for a guy who was amazing and pitched in the pen in the playoffs I mean has there ever been such a fall off like this one? Gallaraga in essence pitched a perfect game as the umpire blew the call on the final out. He fell apart quickly.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 11:39 AM) That game protest was bush-league. You could protest a play like that in every single game. When I was a kid I was at a game in Sept. 1978, the Sox vs. Twins with a whole bunch of September call ups. Larry Doby was the Sox manager and he protested the game because one of the Twins, who had probably just been called up that day, didn't have his name of the back of his uniform. They announced the protest and reason on the PA. The crowd laughed.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 06:14 PM) Fontenot is clearly better than Hudson O Dog blows, but I wonder if Fontenot is really an upgrade. I think KW can do better than that.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 05:26 PM) Just tuned in to the MLB Network. Mitch Williams still thinks the Tigers will win the central by eight games. EIGHT. Mitch Williams can go f*** himself and watch replays of Joe Carter walking his sorry ass off to win the WS. He is perfectly still when he doesn't talk, but do you notice when Mitch Williams speaks his head bounces like a bobblehead?

QUOTE (flavum @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 02:47 PM) Hosmer is batting 7th. What the hell happened? He killed it in spring training too. Rebuilding is a b****. Even most of the can't misses struggle.

Cesar Izturis, Mike Fontenot? Are you guys serious?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 03:26 PM) Trying to acquire a starting pitcher before everyone knew he was out for the year? Not for 2 months. That additional time to recover isn't worth the chance. I'm pretty sure just about every team figured he was out for the year or wasn't going to be very effective if he did come back by what was happening.

QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 12:02 PM) The trainer wasn't telling me or us anything, the sox PR was telling us. Big difference. Im sure they told Danks many times the injury could be more severe, could recquire a specialist, could recquire surgery, but thats not what the PR department would release to fans/media. Thats what their job is, to downplay bad news or negative outcomes. Not for a second did I believe nor do I ever believe how good things are when the PR group speaks or how bad things are when the PR group speaks. I consider myself an estitue enough follow to make up my own mind on the information I am able to discover from the various white sox communities: blogs (South Side Sox, Sox Machine), Forums (Soxtalk), Radio (Rongey, B&B, Spiegel, Schuster, Farmer), TV (Stone/Hawk, Garfein, Thomas, Melton, etc), Twitter (Merkin, Mark Gonzales, Jon Greenberg, etc). Taking in all those sources of information on the John Danks injury from Day One, I would say an easy interpretation is that the injury to his arm described as sub scapular Grade 1 Tear, would most likely end his season and recquire surgery. If the injury was recoverable than from all those sources I mentioned above than I wouldnt have heard things over the past 2 months like; "no timetable for return", "Danks still feels sore after throwing on flat ground", "trainers still not sure extent of injury", "RV doesnt think Danks will be back in Aug", "Danks still not ready for rehab assingment", "Danks/Sox eyeing return after ASG now likely mid august", etc etc. When you hear things like this over and over and over you can be pretty damn sure your dealing with a season ending injury, regardless of what the head trainer says through the Sox PR department. If the Sox thought, or I should say knew for sure that he was going to need surgery, exactly what were they trying to accomplish delaying it? They obviously felt it was something where surgery could be avoided. It turns out it was not. It looks like their diagnosis was fairly right on except perhaps the tear was a little bigger than they thought.

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Aug 6, 2012 -> 07:22 AM) Humber had a hell of a first half http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...;t=p#half_extra Since then, he has been pretty mediocre to bad Hot garbage is more like it. Since the All Star break last year: 143 2/3 IP 160 HITS 93 RUNS 91 EARNED RUNS 52 BB 122 K 5 HBP 26 HR ALLOWED 5.70 ERA

QUOTE (joeynach @ Aug 5, 2012 -> 10:57 AM) Media source is a media source. Every media outlet has been discussing Dank's sub scapular tear since June, I listen to The Score and ESPN 1000 all day at work everyday. Seen it mentioned in pre/post, by Mark Gonzales, John Greenberg on Twitter, seen it mentioned on CSN over and over, even heard Coop talk about it with Rongey and Mulley/Hanley. How the hell were people in here saying no thats not true when I said John Danks as a muscle tear in his throwing shoulder...its been said 1000x time over and well established by the Sox and every media outlet. And on top of that, despite what anyone in the media says about his recovery timetable, show me a pitcher who has had a torn a muscle in his throwing arm or shoulder that hasn't in the end required surgery to repair. sub-scapular does not equal scapular. What you were saying wasn't what Merkin was saying.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 07:03 PM) There isn't a chance in hell I'm taking the White Sox rotation over the Angels rotation. I think there would be a chance if you were signing the checks.

I think this was all a set up. The video I saw had the guy saying he threw him out how cool. Who videos in between innings of a minor league baseball game? The guy was interviewed and said he'd do it again. He was an unpaid intern. He had nothing to lose. I think he thought this would get him some attention and maybe he could make talk show rounds or something.

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Aug 4, 2012 -> 08:34 AM) Manto got him out of that ridiculous batting stance he had. It's amazing Walker wouldn't/couldn't. And not being around the Ozzie clubhouse had to help as well. Rios and Ozzie are supposed to be tight. I don't know if it was a legitmate friendship or something that started when Rios and KW almost came to blows last year, and Ozzie figured anyone who wanted to punch KW was a good friend of his.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 11:10 PM) "I think it's a very clear case in our favor...all 3 umpires agree he was inside the line. But they said they have discretion not to call it if he didn't disrupt the throw.." Soscia is pissed Sorry Mike, they have interpreted the rule correctly. Perhaps their judgement that he didn't disrupt the throw was incorrect, we will never really know, but then it becomes a judgement call, for which protests are denied. I bet Angel catchers drill anyone outside the lane from now on.

QUOTE (ctsoxfan @ Aug 3, 2012 -> 08:16 PM) it would have been nice if dunn attemted to slide...didnt see anyone telling him too though He would have been out. Knocking the ball out was his only chance.